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Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:37 pm
by Count Roland
and all the letters being pretty much the same reinforces the npc thing too.

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:16 pm
by Assaultman67
underthedeep wrote:just finished Angel Beat!
i didn't cry.
How is that even possible?

Did your eyes at least water?

god dammit! That was the saddest series I've ever watched! ... you're making feel like a total pussy :lol:

SPOILER AHEAD
(this scene isn't going to make much sense to alot of people)
How did you not cry when you got to this scene:


Wow, you're like a machine :?

Edit: so I just asked around and it seems alot of people I know who have watched this series didnt cry. This is kinda an eye opener ... maybe I need to see a psychologist :(

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:56 pm
by adwuga
Count Roland wrote:how could anyone find dead space sad? or whatever? it's just like oh, some monsters, a bunch of dead people, honestly difficult to care about that kind of thing. of course this is coming from the guy who thinks that 9/11 is an over sensationalized minor event that people need to stop whining over, some people died, but we have a lot of them.
In fact we have too many. The world would be better off if things like this happened more often. Those people would have eaten away at the worlds resources for the rest of their life, causing pollution, death of animals, deforestation, and loads of other shit.

Did you cry when Bambi's mom died? I didn't, but it was sadder than 9/11.


(I was only sort of kidding about all of this)

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:09 am
by underthedeep
Assaultman67 wrote: How is that even possible?

Did your eyes at least water?

god dammit! That was the saddest series I've ever watched! ... you're making feel like a total pussy :lol:

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Wow, you're like a machine :?

Edit: so I just asked around and it seems alot of people I know who have watched this series didnt cry. This is kinda an eye opener ... maybe I need to see a psychologist :(
that part was a gut-wrencher, but it was just too sappy to really get me all emotional. i don't like when anime's get all soap-opera. the parts that really got me down though were FOR SURE Otanashi's death story, and seconded by Yui's paralyses ordeal. Bummmmmmmmmerrrrr. The little clip after the credits was quite pleasant though :)

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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:01 am
by Untadaike
Zhukov wrote: Grave of the Fireflies

Fucking hell.
Tell me about it. That movie was intense.

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:18 pm
by Renegade_Turner
Korban3 wrote:Avatar had a happy ending. So um... yeah. A couple deaths, but it was no Deadspace. I mean you didn't see whole spaceships full of people get turned into monsters and starting ripping out their friends spines through their throat. C'mon man.
Huh? While I didn't find Avatar very emotionally-powered, despite the obvious oh-no-the-rainforests-poor-tribes-corporations-America-evil-blah-blah, that was an AWFUL analogy. Dead Space, as tear-jerker? Avatar wins ten times over. When would Dead Space make you cry? Oh, they were turned into monsters, that's unfortunate, but it's not presented in a way that provokes tears. And if it did, they wouldn't be the kind of tears that feel good to cry.

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:55 pm
by Assaultman67
Honestly I kinda see how dead space could be viewed as sad. (Then again, I've never played it :P)

There always seemed to be a very dramatic element that could be added to zombie movies that just isn't explored thoroughly.

Several ways it could be done ... Killing loved ones (the obvious way, however, the characters are rarely fleshed out enough for people to give a fuck when they die.), or maybe from the perspective of someone infected themselves ... like their last conscious thoughts expressed into words.

"I don't want to die! I don't want to hurt my friends!" and then have that internal struggle expressed as words to a friend as he/she debates blowing his/her head off with a shotgun in tears ...

Or maybe just follow the life of a protagonist as they go through the zombie apocalypse. Then when things are starting to look better (zombies are dying off, order is restored, etc) have them get infected in a freak accident and simply shot by some random person.

Like, i would like to have a protagonist, go through the entire movie unscathed, get infected about 10 minutes till the end, turn into a zombie, slowly wander out into the street, and get shot in the face by some random guy who happens to be cleaning up the area. the end. :P

Like a deafening silence toward the end of his life, where you see panic on his face and you can only hear his heartbeat as he realizes hes infected. then the heartbeat slows down as the virus takes effect. then just completely stops, and there is total silence up until the point he is shot ...

or maybe hit by a car?

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:42 am
by Grayswandir
Lost Odyssey has this depressing side quest to it. As you wander around talking to NPCs you get "dreams" that are his memories of the past coming back. So far there have been stories about lying to dying little girls about the suffering of war and the beauty of the outside world and stories about a mother and daughter crushed in their own house during and earthquake while the father was looking for flowers to show the daughter and regretting the last thing you say to someone before they suddenly die.

Also: Now and Then, Here and There

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:28 am
by Renegade_Turner
Well 28 Days Later perfectly explored the emotional and psychological aspect to it. It's a genuinely sad film. In fact it's more heartbreaking than it is scary. No where did anyone say a horror film can't be sad. It's just Dead Space doesn't really evoke that at all, it's more about cheap scares.

Silent Hill II is a better example of the horror genre in gaming that still explores sadness and psychological pain to its fullest.

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:33 pm
by zoidberg rules
I really liked 28 days later, thought it was fantastic, didn't think 28 weeks later was anywhere near as good though... Still had the emotions, just not as well written I thought, then they went for the massive cliche at the end of "You thought it was over, but it's just getting started" by showing the zombies running around in Paris.

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:02 pm
by Korban3
Renegade_Turner wrote:
Silent Hill II is a better example of the horror genre in gaming that still explores sadness and psychological pain to its fullest.
Yes, but I think the older ones do so more than the new ones.I think I just think too hard about Dead Space. I get all philosophical/psychological about some crap, and then it seems like I feel too many emotions, but then I find times when something should be really sad and it isn't. Maybe my emotions are broken.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:43 pm
by Zhukov
By the way, anyone here seen Children of Men?

Yeah.

That scene.

Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:00 pm
by Renegade_Turner
Which scene? In the car with your one? Or the one with Michael Caine?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:03 am
by Zhukov
What?

I think we might be referring to different movies.

I mean this one. Not sure how effective it is out of context though. If you haven't seen the movie it won't quite make sense.


Re: Cry like a baby.. at any age...

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:56 am
by Freshbite
I think it is impressive enough that they get it to look like everything up to the part with the baby is all in one take.