Hold up, hold up, EVEN US citizens? That's messed up man, the law EVEN allows them to arrest the only people they should be allowed to arrest.
That would be the law
adwuga wrote:Whats NDAA? (this isn't just to prove your point)
that allows the U.S. govt to detain anyone they want to, even US citizens arrested on US soil
lolz, that's right, my foreign friend, now we're
under the same, uhm... "laws" we've been subjecting all the rest the world to for the last 10 years. So of course we're whining...
Otoh, lots o' people here deplore doing it to anyone, no matter where they're from, and of course it violates a ton of international agreements, Geneva Conventions on treatment of p.o.w.'s, reasonable human behavior and morals, etc. But it's a tough and murky and complex thing to enforce international law, as you might guess, and the military has been able to get away with some outrageous crap that is basically illegal here, just by making it way hard to fight. Check out the very picture on the NDAA wiki page: it's Guantanomo, with prisoners from the war zones. A fairly large number have been sprung, but the process is a real bitch, and takes years.
Now here in the states, law is-- or has been, up 'til now, a lot more straight forward. You (supposedly) have to have lawyers, trials, evidence, defense and convictions to throw someone in jail, and you don't get to just do it for "indefinitely", there are sentencing guidelines, appeals, all that civilized stuff. It ain't always perfect, but to make a law that throws it all out is pretty bad-- and won't make it one day easier to do anything about the abuse of p.o.w.'s and foreign nationals, that's for sure. The whole thing is a steaming pile from the start 10 years ago, (and likely earlier), but now it's our country's fucking LAW that we're going to do it.
Oh, Merry Christmas to the rest of the world, too.
I'm going to stock up on guns and food and rockband guitars and a sweet eyebrow.
And a man-kini thong thing. And some more body hair.