Re: Archive of Notable Events
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:57 pm
I urge to know where that is from...underthedeep wrote:now this:

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I urge to know where that is from...underthedeep wrote:now this:

I'll be damned...Renegade_Turner wrote:"Isn't there?" is pretty much "Is there not?" so Freshbite is right. By my account, anyway.
Still god damn mesmerizing.underthedeep wrote:...
Well, no, because the point of that saying (there isn't x, is there?) is that you are making an observation, and then rhetorically questioning it. "Is there not" carries the connotation that you think there is, and thus contradicts the first part of the sentence (there isn't x).Renegade_Turner wrote:Ohhh, it's not that easy.
"Isn't there?" is pretty much "Is there not?" so Freshbite is right. By my account, anyway.
Freshbite wrote: I urge to know where that is from...
It didn't carry that connotation, because that's not what he was implying. It was pretty obvious what it meant. "There's no beating around the bush with you, is there not?" is perfectly grammatically acceptable. On my account.Jacktheawesome wrote:Well, no, because the point of that saying (there isn't x, is there?) is that you are making an observation, and then rhetorically questioning it. "Is there not" carries the connotation that you think there is, and thus contradicts the first part of the sentence (there isn't x).
Renegade_Turner wrote:
I thought that was Emma Watson, but I wasn't sure. I've never seen her like this. I don't know what to think.
I know the point came across either way, but I believe the phrase ends "...is there," not "isn't there." Think about it; it doesn't really make sense the latter way. He's already said: "There's no beating around the bush with you." Adding "Is not there" is like saying: "There's no beating around the bush with you; there is beating around the bush with you, right?" It undermines the message he's trying to get across.Renegade_Turner wrote:It didn't carry that connotation, because that's not what he was implying. It was pretty obvious what it meant. "There's no beating around the bush with you, is there not?" is perfectly grammatically acceptable. On my account.Jacktheawesome wrote:Well, no, because the point of that saying (there isn't x, is there?) is that you are making an observation, and then rhetorically questioning it. "Is there not" carries the connotation that you think there is, and thus contradicts the first part of the sentence (there isn't x).