Korban3 wrote:"Hollow" death threats.
You've never met a Marine, have you? It's totes not worth taking the chance. If someone online issues a death threat, there's a pretty good chance they were a Marine and have every intent to follow through with it.
Dude, it's a game developer who founded a game studio. Gaben could probably beat his face in.
Endoperez wrote:Okay, so you are saying it only becomeza crime once the target subjectively is affected.
The target's state of a one is affected by all the hate they receive. Wouldn't that mean that if they ever become afraod, the guy from Paranautical is also partly to blame?
If that's true, he should also share the consewuences.
Yes, he should be punished as well. I do think that Valve should have given them another change however
I think there's another disconnect in play here. Have you ever used your real name online, Phoenix? I have, and do. Everything I say and do since I was about 14 or so can be connected to me and I've been aware of it and acted responsibly so that it won't burn me. It's also my identity. It's me in a way I shouldn't have to abandon.
No, but I'm smart enough to not be an absolute dick online if I wouldn't be an absolute dick in real life. Though I keep my anonymous online persona different then my real life me.
Though I don't have different opinions because of it.
You seem to think internet isn't as important as real life. Would a death threat be worse if you got it in paper?
Yes, because then they knew where to send it. So they could end up finding me.
Obviously, because it carries the aspect of 'I know how to physically reach you'.
However, you also seem to attach this 'if it's the internet, you can leave it' thing to all online threats.
No, I mean that people on the internet tell people to go kill themselves all the time, or say they're going to kill people, or other things. These are hollow threats however.
And mean absolutely nothing unless you let them, being afraid gives them all their power.
You obviously don't mean 'stop using one of the modern world's defining tools'. You probably mean 'stop using that account, become anonymous'. Well, I'm not anonymous. I'm Endoperez. It's not a name I use in real life, but e.g. people from this forum who will get into the game business might recognize it, years from now.
No, I mean that you should take these threats as they come and retort with "Meh".
See above for details.
And what anonymous account can Gabe Newell use when he talks for Steam? How can he talk to people and listen to his customers if he gets threats, and has to abandon online communicatipns as a person representing Steam?
Again, see above.
Internet accounts are not all something you can abandon. Some are important.
Some, but you can still get death threats from some passerby who went "Different opinion than me? DIE MOTHAFUKA". You just need to go "These are hollow threats. Like the navy seal copypasta, it means nothing".