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shadow717 wrote:Well, today I got mugged, and got my phone stollen, and my sister got her I pod stollen. I'm pretty . So has this happened to anyone else?

well I sort of know how you feel.
My family(excluding me, my sister, and my dad) got Held up at a friend's house when we live in SA.
About three cellphones, a computer, clothes, and our car, Got stolen.
Not to mention the security company was rubbish, they sent one guy down, and he became on of the hostages.

Sandurz wrote:Depends on where you're stabbed. If you get stabbed in the heart, yeah you'll die. The arm? Not unless the nearest hospital is a babillion miles away.

lol, *runs in to a hospital* shouting "I GOT STABBED IN MY PINKY NAIL"

Sandurz wrote:Depends on where you're stabbed. If you get stabbed in the heart, yeah you'll die. The arm? Not unless the nearest hospital is a babillion miles away.

lol I don't think you understand the kind of people that actually stab people. they don't do this shit in halves. one stab wound is no fun for them.

Who do you know that has ever been stabbed in the arm? Why would they go for the arm? They're going to shank you.

Stab wounds don't work like they do in movies. Your body works like a machine, and no amount of willpower or adrenaline can overcome the physical facts of damage.

Let's assume you are magically immune to pain. If you get cut deeply on your arm, odds are that you will lose essential functionality, like being able to close your hand or extend your arm. If you get stabbed anywhere in the chest, your lung will quickly collapse, and you won't be able to breathe. If you're cut in the face, you will bleed profusely, and the blood will get in your eyes, nose and mouth and make it extremely difficult to see or breathe. If you're stabbed in abdomen, suddenly you have fecal matter and hydrochloric acid mixing with your blood stream causing you to go into shock and pass out. Even if you just get a shallow cut, it will bleed profusely, and you will quickly feel faint, dizzy and weak, and probably pass out.

With modern medicine, luck, and a lot of money, none of these wounds are necessarily lethal, but any one of them will make you unable to fight anymore and mess you up for life. Unfortunately, now the mugger is freaking out because it's felony assault, and you've seen his face, so he may stab you a few more times while you're down.

Even if you survive, your hospital bills will cost orders of magnitude more than whatever he wanted to take from you, and he'll take it anyway while you're unconscious on the ground. It doesn't matter if you're an expert martial artist in Olympic shape, you will almost certainly get stabbed if you fight someone who has a knife, and that first stab will end the fight.

Action movies and games have instilled this idea that if you get in a fight everything will suddenly go in slow motion, you can flawlessly execute devastating unarmed attacks and disarms, and then walk away unscathed with epic music and explosions going off behind you. You have to think of it from an outside perspective. In real life, the universe doesn't care if you get your face sliced open, and isn't going to intervene on your behalf.

On the one hand, you have some kid walking home from school whose muscles probably haven't yet caught up with his growing skeleton. His fighting experience is at best limited to punching the air a few times in some corporate bastardization of a martial arts class. On the other hand, you have a thug whose life consists of robbing people, fighting, and taking steroids to develop huge muscles which elevate his status in his lowlife social circle. On top of that, he is displaying a sharp knife, and for all you know is carrying other concealed weapons as well, or has friends nearby.

You are in his element, and he is in control, for the moment. Your only options are to run away or to capitulate, and then call the police ASAP with a decent description (sex, age, race, clothing, direction he left), and then do some paperwork to get new credit cards, check if your stuff is insured for theft, etc. Then you get on with your life, and think about how lucky you were for making it through the situation alive and unhurt.

To summarize: If you fight someone with a knife, you won't win. Even if you do, you will still be cut, and it will cost more to treat your injuries than it would to replace all the valuables you are carrying.

this is why I carry a gun. (don't need a license for a concealed weapon up here)

To play devil's advocate for a minute, that situation changes dramatically if you've actually had some form of training in martial arts, simply because you then have a working knowledge of fighting techniques that the average mugger doesn't have. To illustrate - I have a friend who used to live in South Auckland (Auckland = New Zealand's biggest city, South = rough part of town). His semi-professional knowledge of kicking has got him out of trouble on more than one occasion (mainly because people don't expect a foot to come flying up to head height...). If you actually know what you're doing, you don't try to pick fights, and you don't live in a large city, seeing the would-be mugger off can work out - they're looking for easy pickings, after all. Also, if you're wearing steel-capped boots, you are not weaponless. >_>

That said though: the situation changes if the other guy has a knife.Think about how lethal a knife throw is to them rabbits...

Two things about knives-

1- Do NOT pull out your own weapon unless you absolutely have to. If they are asking for money, give it to them, if you pull out a weapon in retaliation, they will use theirs, and unlike you, theirs is already out.

2- Martial arts are not magic. If the mugger has a knife and you know how to disarm a knife, give him what he wants. Especially if he is holding the knife properly.

Or, if you're like me, tell him no, and punch them in the face. Maybe I'm just an idiot, but I don't think they'd kill me. At least I wouldn't feel like a puss.

Okay. Look at it this way.

If someone is mugging you, they are either stupid or desperate.

If they are desperate enough to steal from you, they are definately desperate enough to stab you.

If they are stupid, the might not attack back, but remember, they are stupid.

You are not weak for trying not to get stabbed in the face. Infact, you are stupid for not trying to not get stabbed in the face.

I'm also not that bad of a fighter. I've gotten into fights with knives involved. I only got stabbed once. Did I lose? No. I think I could take a mugger.

unless you're Bruce Lee.

true ren, I didn't ignore davids, lol his made me mention my gun. I've always noticed martial arts are rather useless unless you have really true mastery i.e. 23 years of constant practice xD and even than a slight mistake gets you killed or injured.

NZSAS go though such intense training they pull out knifes on each other and butcher each other badly just to practus there first aid.

But NZSAS are so Elite they can stop anyone from putting up a fight. To kill an NZSAS you would have to be very lucky or very tough. They could be classed as super human.

Or you'd have to have a gun or RPG.