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Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:13 pm
by Ragdollmaster
I can't think of any well-known games where the fourth wall has been broken :roll:


Haven't made much progress in the RPG yet, I think I'll start working on the main characters tomorrow though. Pretty tired today :v

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:51 am
by Endoperez
Ragdollmaster wrote:I can't think of any well-known games where the fourth wall has been broken :roll:
Do you mean besides small stuff like "The reasons for your incessant clicking are not known to me." (Dak'kon, Planescape: Torment) that happens in all kinds of games from at least the times of Warcraft 1 (keep clicking on a sheep and it explodes)? But really, check out TVTropes. Here's a pretty nifty example, and heavy SPOILERS for a DS game called 'Contact'.


The Nintendo DS game Contact does this almost all the time, with the Professor speaking directly to the player asking you to "guide" Terry, the main character. And that's just to start. In the ending, following the final boss fight, Terry wakes up back on the first island and start to talk to you. Up until this point he had been a Silent Protagonist, as you (the player) controlled him, and you could not actually speak. He then tells you that he realized that he just was being controlled, and was angry at you. He then attacks you, forcing you to fight him yourself. After that, the rest of the ending rolls, and if you're lucky, you can see the epilogue, in which the professor explains that the entire plot of the game was started when he realized he was a video game character. He learned what he was, and afterward, began to live even when the game was turned off. He then says that he's leaving the game to travel the (real) world, and creates a copy of himself in case you want to play through the game again, leading you to wonder if the one that left that message was even the original to begin with...

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:40 am
by Untadaike
Whenever any characters celebrate, have them exchange drugs. (i.e. booze, stogies).

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:33 am
by Ragdollmaster
Endoperez: I was joking, hence the rolling eyes smiley. But my fault, I forgot to utilize the sarcasm tags, one second:

I can't think of any well-known games where the fourth wall has been broken :roll:

A classic example I thought of right off the bat was Metal Gear Solid. (So, you like to play Castlevania!)

So eh, there's a lot more to RPG Maker than I thought, even when it comes to editing the characters :v I hate to say it but I think I'll be using a lot of preset stuff in the game, like the default monster groups etc.

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:26 am
by Renegade_Turner
Endoperez wrote:Do you mean besides small stuff like "The reasons for your incessant clicking are not known to me." (Dak'kon, Planescape: Torment) that happens in all kinds of games from at least the times of Warcraft 1 (keep clicking on a sheep and it explodes)?
I think the Monkey Island games are the most notorious examples of it.

ASK ME ABOUT LOOM.

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:52 am
by tokage
LOOM is great. Wanna see what's under my hood?

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:12 pm
by Endoperez
tokage wrote:LOOM is great. Wanna see what's under my hood?
I never saw that because I wasn't artistic enough to use the distaff by ear.

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:18 pm
by Uberbeard
I'm writing a game at the moment where your character actually breaks out of the fourth wall in the first chapter, and you play the rest of the game outside it's own engine.

It eventually ends when you crash your own hardware.

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:37 am
by Endoperez
Uberbeard wrote:I'm writing a game at the moment where your character actually breaks out of the fourth wall in the first chapter, and you play the rest of the game outside it's own engine.

It eventually ends when you crash your own hardware.
Wow, Kidd Radd the game!

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:00 am
by Uberbeard
Endoperez wrote:Wow, Kidd Radd the game!
I hadn't seen that, but I'm checking it out now. Cool link.

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:56 am
by Endoperez
Uberbeard wrote:
Endoperez wrote:Wow, Kidd Radd the game!
I hadn't seen that, but I'm checking it out now. Cool link.
I had seen that, but boy it's much, MUCH better than I remembered. DAMN!

I mean...























DAMN! yeah. Great.
EDIT: Wait, how many hours did I just spend reading that? How the time flies when you're having fun...

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:16 pm
by Ragdollmaster
Sorry for the lack of updating on the game's progress; in short, life sucks, and I haven't been able to get on my computer in the past week or so save for some quick peeks from school or library computers :P I'll try to restart development this weekend.

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:43 pm
by invertin
I have a plan to make "RPG Maker: the RPG" in which there is no fourth wall at all.

Save points are a plot point, that's all I'm going to say about it (since I'll probably never finish it)

I wish I could help with the RPG, but all I could really do is provide story/character ideas, and anyone could do that really. I could sprite, but I'm too lazy and kinda unreliable. Plus I've never sprited anything with an animation more complex than FOOT FORWARD, FOOT BACK and 2003 has that awkward animation thingy to mess with.

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:17 pm
by Uberbeard
invertin wrote:I have a plan to make "RPG Maker: the RPG" in which there is no fourth wall at all.

Save points are a plot point, that's all I'm going to say about it (since I'll probably never finish it)

I wish I could help with the RPG, but all I could really do is provide story/character ideas, and anyone could do that really. I could sprite, but I'm too lazy and kinda unreliable. Plus I've never sprited anything with an animation more complex than FOOT FORWARD, FOOT BACK and 2003 has that awkward animation thingy to mess with.
This whole post? It has my approval.

Re: Making an RPG, need YOUR help!

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:24 am
by Grayswandir
Ragdollmaster wrote:I can't think of any well-known games where the fourth wall has been broken :roll:
I never said it was a new and original idea. You just have to do it right.