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Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:43 pm
by m3nace
I'm not much one for bad company 2, sure it's fun but they really haven't improved a lot on the level design, they need to revise their design theories (although that can be very hard to do on such big ass maps).
The singleplayer campaign didn't feel that epic to me, with all kinds of "holy shit" moments all the time, every "holy shit" moment becomes trivial :/
it didn't get my adrenaline running once and the story is also kinda trivial (except for those Lost moments you have, it adds some exciting mysticism to the blend of crappy humour and constant cutscenes - yea that's right, I'm a Lostie)

But I'm quite excited about FF, haven't got a chance to try it yet, but It's an experience I'm (as always) looking forward to

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Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:15 pm
by Renegade_Turner
What's Lost?

You should get the new FFXIII. I reccommend it. It's odd though. Certain features of the game only unlock as you progress. I didn't get to the part where you start levelling up until around 5 or 6 hours into the game.

The one thing I don't like about the game is the Auto-Battle option in the battle system menu. It basically fights each battle for you, and all your input is into the fight is selecting which enemy to attack and which Paradigm (fancy word for Class) you want your party to shift to (you can do Class changes mid-battle).

If you ignore the Auto-Battle option, the battle system is very action-packed and fast. Also, enemies don't wait for you to select your attacks, so you have to think fast, and the battles are pretty tense at times. This is a change from normal RPG games where the battle systems are slow and tedious.

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:25 pm
by Blorx
Renegade_Turner wrote:
If you ignore the Auto-Battle option, the battle system is very action-packed and fast. Also, enemies don't wait for you to select your attacks, so you have to think fast, and the battles are pretty tense at times. This is a change from normal RPG games where the battle systems are slow and tedious.
If you love that battle system, you should also check out Resonance of Fate. It looked so cool, I pre-paid for it so that now all I have to do is pick it up in a week. :D

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:24 am
by m3nace
sounds like a nice battlesystem
Renegade_Turner wrote:What's Lost?
simply the only TV series out there that's worth watching. There are so much to interpret from it and it tells us so much about humans and what we are (though if you don't like to interpret, then that's fine too - you can still wonder about all the mystic stuff in it)
Really, you should go watch it, no matter what kinds of movies or TV series that you like

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:34 am
by Renegade_Turner
Oh, you're talking about the TV show, I thought you meant something worthwhile. In terms of entertainment value, I guess you could say the show succeeds. In terms of a good storyline, it's as though a six-year-old child decides what to add in with each new episode. No cohesion. It's fun to watch if you want to not think for 30 minutes. (or an hour, however long the episodes are). Kind of like Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. I think you're seriously overestimating the characterisation, though. Even comedy series like Frasier have better characterisation than Lost.

Oh, I did like that guy with the long blonde hair though. The asshole with a conscience guy. He was pretty badass. Reminds me of myself.

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:31 am
by m3nace
Renegade_Turner wrote:Oh, you're talking about the TV show, I thought you meant something worthwhile. In terms of entertainment value, I guess you could say the show succeeds. In terms of a good storyline, it's as though a six-year-old child decides what to add in with each new episode. No cohesion. It's fun to watch if you want to not think for 30 minutes. (or an hour, however long the episodes are). Kind of like Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. I think you're seriously overestimating the characterisation, though. Even comedy series like Frasier have better characterisation than Lost.

Oh, I did like that guy with the long blonde hair though. The asshole with a conscience guy. He was pretty badass. Reminds me of myself.
want to not think?... I don't think you've understood what kinds of messages it sends and how you can interpret the shows storyline, characters etc

if you can't deduce any greater meaning from Lost then I'd say your not as intellectual as I thought you were

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:50 pm
by Renegade_Turner
lol polar bears ending up on a tropical island with some half-assed explanation for such an occurrence? I'm sorry, you're being a bit vague, please explain to me the messages you received from your interpretation of the show's storyline, all I got was wakka wakka wakka wakka.

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:00 pm
by Sandurz
Renegade_Turner wrote:Just get Battlefield: Bad Company 2. It's epic.
I looove the sniper system. No more being overpowered! At least it'll take some skill to pull off now.

EDIT:
Renegade_Turner wrote:lol polar bears ending up on a tropical island with some half-assed explanation for such an occurrence? I'm sorry, you're being a bit vague, please explain to me the messages you received from your interpretation of the show's storyline, all I got was wakka wakka wakka wakka.
Just read this....It was a zoo....And now that the Dharma Initiative is gone and nobody really took care of it, BAM. Random animals.

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:06 pm
by Renegade_Turner
...that's a GREAT storyline. I've been proven wrong?

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:48 pm
by Endorgan
Who puts a zoo on an (I'm guessing) uncharted island, in an obviously tropical area, with polar bears.
Really.
If it were in a habitat room, it would be dead because of starvation.
I haven't ever tried to paste together the story line, all of it seems like:
"*CRASH* oh no! Ahh we're dying! Where are the others? Ahh we're dying more! Whats mauling us? We found them! They're traitors! We're still dying!"
At this point I got bored.

Back OT: That game looks more like a sandbox, toss people from helicopters, game.
3 out of 5.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:24 am
by Zhukov
(Can we at least try to stay on topic for a bit? Guys? Ren? Please?)

I grabbed the Just Cause 2 demo a few days ago. It's... well... it's ok.

First things first. Everything apart from the gameplay is a great big load of crap. By that I am referring to the story, the characters, the pacing etc. All that stuff that most players and developers don't seem to care about. Yeah... well, in JC2 it's all garbage. Special mention goes to the utterly atrocious voice acting. Sure, bad voice acting is practically a video game tradition, but JC2 may just have capped the lot. To date, it is the one and only game that forced me to turn on subtitles and reach for the mute button every time someone started talking.

The gameplay is also not without issues. The game has an irritating habit of hijacking your direction of aim. For example, when in free-fall you are unable to look downwards for more then a second or so. Apparently it didn't occur to the developers that when players are plummeting through the air they may actually want to know how close they are to the ground.
(Actually there is one way to look down when falling. By pressing the button that makes you fall faster. Yeah, nice one guys.)

Also, certain actions, notably vehicle hijacking, require the player to endure a short, irritating and completely unnecessary quicktime event. Which uses non-bindable keys. (Forgot to mention that one in your bloody trailers didn't you!? Idiots.)

Lastly, the shooting is painfully average and a bit clunky. Both the player character and enemies have obscene amounts of health, so you basically just stand there and chip away at each other. The player doesn't win through skill or clever use of gameplay mechanics, he wins because he has a longer health bar.

Those of you who have managed to read this far may have the impression that I hate this game. Oddly enough that isn't the case. In fact, I've pre-ordered the damn thing. It's actually rather fun. The grapple and parachute mechanics work well, the explosions are pretty, there are plenty of ways to liven up the combat and the game features a big ol' sandbox with lots of stuff to do and destroy.

Oh, and, for them that care, the graphics and sound are pretty average. They get the job done, but your mind will remain stubbornly unblown.

So, in conclusion, if you like sandbox game with lots of explosions a la Red Faction: Guerilla then I encourage you to at least check out the Just Cause 2 demo.

(Huh. That post turned out a bit longer then I planned.)

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:23 am
by Dudeman
The graphics for the pc version are quite a bit more than average. They have GPU simulated water, and the other effects can be cranked up as well, but i have to agree with you on the other points. The voice acting is... uninspiring, and the characters don't seem fleshed out whatsoever. And I fucking hate the non-skippable cutscene at the beginning. If I have to hear "My name is Bolo Santosi" one more time.. ah fuck, nevermind, I'd probably just sit on a cat or something.

Water Physics 1
Water Physics 2

btw, those pictures were taken from an oasis in the desert just north of the demo border.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:36 am
by Zhukov
Dudeman wrote:The graphics for the pc version are quite a bit more than average. They have GPU simulated water, and the other effects can be cranked up as well...
Water Physics 1
Water Physics 2
Yeah, you're right. Those are very pretty. I guess I'm just not a graphics person.
Dudeman wrote:If I have to hear "My name is Bolo Santosi" one more time...
Yup. Couldn't agree more.

"... I em the leader of the reeapuurs."
"... You're services are invaluaabahle."

*wince*

Hence the mute button.

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:05 am
by m3nace
Renegade_Turner wrote:lol polar bears ending up on a tropical island with some half-assed explanation for such an occurrence? I'm sorry, you're being a bit vague, please explain to me the messages you received from your interpretation of the show's storyline, all I got was wakka wakka wakka wakka.
mainly it's a show about humans. How humans are in general, how stupid humans are and how selfish and greedy humans are.
It's also about the human nature (survival instincts and the like) and what our intelligence has really done for us.

To sum it up I'd say it shows how blind the regular human is and why he is so cruel.

Re: Just Cause 2

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:30 am
by Renegade_Turner
I'm not quite sure how it does that. You're being awfully vague about the shows benefits.

And if I wanted that I could just watch a World War 2 documentary.