Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

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Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by Phoenixwarrior141 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:01 pm

It ragdolls you, can't be dodged as easily as other attacks and can be spammed mercilessly with only ONE counter.

It's gotta be the most annoying thing ever.

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by EPR89 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:08 am

What kick are you talking about? Because when I think "sweep kick" I think of the kick you do when you crouch down and this one excels at being:
  • slower than most other attacks,
  • leaving you open for pretty much any attack besides the hook and high kicks,
  • having a very limited reach,
  • enabling you to dodge backwards, block it or simply running away to avoid it.
You can only really pull it off after blocking an attack because the stun effect lasts just long enough for you to pull off the move and leaves the opponent in range. If you spam it, you'll get kicked or punched in the back, since the front kick and pretty much every close range attack is quicker than the sweep.
And I don't understand what you mean by "It ragdolls you." It has the same chance to ragdoll you as any other attack. The only guaranteed ragdoll hit is when you manage to hit the opponent while he is attacking you. And that's again the case for every attack in the game.

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by Phoenixwarrior141 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:51 am

Yes that one.

No, it's still pretty bad.

1: The AI is apparently intelligent enough to spot my roundhouse as it's starting, in full knowledge of this they duck the attack and hit it with a sweep kick. Knocking me off my feet and allowing me to be attacked further.

2: Countering it is a bitch. You have to get in at the sweet spot (Assuming you didn't run into number 1) to kick the opponent down.

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by EPR89 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:12 am

As long as you stick to straight attacks it is absolutely the easiest attack to intercept. It takes almost longer than the spinning back kick. As soon as you see the opponent turn you just have to get in and press attack. That's pretty much a guaranteed hit. And dodging and blocking works just like with any other attack. So how is it harder to counter?

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by Korban3 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:08 pm

git gud bro
I put a lot of time, when I first got OG, learning to duck high kicks and leg sweep at the same time. Feels so good to do that shit right.

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by Phoenixwarrior141 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:22 pm

EPR89 wrote:As long as you stick to straight attacks it is absolutely the easiest attack to intercept. It takes almost longer than the spinning back kick. As soon as you see the opponent turn you just have to get in and press attack. That's pretty much a guaranteed hit. And dodging and blocking works just like with any other attack. So how is it harder to counter?
Because without slow motion, or if you're caught in the middle of another attack at some point, you may not have the reflexes.

Thanks to Overgrowth's contextual system, being caught in the middle of an attack is a death sentence.

Also, just a note:

It takes 3 sweep kicks to kill a rabbit without any upgrades (Guard). And they are fast enough to chain and the enemy will not be able to react fast enough to finish you

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by renamedperson » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:49 pm

Get close to them and jab them then they will be stopped!

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by Phoenixwarrior141 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:08 pm

daxtart wrote:Get close to them and jab them then they will be stopped!
It's way too fast for that.

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by EPR89 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:02 pm

Phoenixwarrior141 wrote:
daxtart wrote:Get close to them and jab them then they will be stopped!
It's way too fast for that.
Strange.
I always do that and even if I am too far for the jab or knee and the frontkick still easily beats the sweep.

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by Phoenixwarrior141 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:31 pm

The front kick often get's me into trouble, I play way too aggressively.

It's often because the AI can react faster then I can stop the roundhouse.

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by Korban3 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:48 pm

The front kick is way faster than the sweep. I always get my ass kicked because the enemy starts a front kick halfway through the sweep. Not sure how the time compares to the spin and round kicks.

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Re: Sweep Kick has to be the most annoying thing ever

Post by Phoenixwarrior141 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:19 am

Korban3 wrote:The front kick is way faster than the sweep. I always get my ass kicked because the enemy starts a front kick halfway through the sweep. Not sure how the time compares to the spin and round kicks.
It seems to be their reaction time then, since I can't time it right.

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