[Weapon] War Hammer [final release] updated 1/16/13

[samjb1992]

this is the finished product for the war hammer.
please leave any changes or advice on the hammer as a comment and i will work on as soon as i can.

update 1/16/13: fixed the one handed problem. turner now uses both hands when fighting with the hammer.
download link:

war_hammer 2.0.zip

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video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auIdlF-FLU4

[Constance]

1st attack - Kind of odd how he uses one hand to strike.
2nd attack - He stabs the hammer through the enemy like a sword. ???
3rd attack - Isn't that the same as the 2nd?

Also, blood is splashing out from a blunt weapon, and when attacking, the character holds it with one hand, but when he's not, he's holding two hands. That's not very sensible.

To fix having blood splashing out, you need to delete certain lines in your attack .xml's.
Here's a bloodless version of the stab:

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<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<attack>
    <animations unblocked = "Data/Custom/samjb1992/war_hammer/Animations/hammer_stab_attack.anm"
                blocked = "Data/Animations/r_spearstabblocked.anm"/>
    <flags height = "medium"
           direction = "front"
           swap_stance = "false"
           swap_stance_blocked = "false"
           mobile = "true"
		   flesh_unblockable = "false"/>
    <reaction>Data/Attacks/reaction_medfront.xml</reaction>
    <impact_dir x="0.0" y="0.0" z="1.0"/>
    <block_damage min="0.5" max="0.7"/>
    <damage min="2.0" max="3.1"/>
    <force val="20000"/>
</attack>

I deleted the lines

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    <materialevent></materialevent>
    <stab_dir type="heavy" x="0.0" y="1.0" z="0.0"/>

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    <sharp_damage min="2.3" max="3.8"/>

And also set <flesh_unblockable> to false, allowing the character to block it.

[samjb1992]

1st attack - Kind of odd how he uses one hand to strike.
2nd attack - He stabs the hammer through the enemy like a sword. ???
3rd attack - Isn't that the same as the 2nd?

Also, blood is splashing out from a blunt weapon, and when attacking, the character holds it with one hand, but when he's not, he's holding two hands. That's not very sensible.

To fix having blood splashing out, you need to delete certain lines in your attack .xml's.
Here's a bloodless version of the stab:

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<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<attack>
    <animations unblocked = "Data/Custom/samjb1992/war_hammer/Animations/hammer_stab_attack.anm"
                blocked = "Data/Animations/r_spearstabblocked.anm"/>
    <flags height = "medium"
           direction = "front"
           swap_stance = "false"
           swap_stance_blocked = "false"
           mobile = "true"
		   flesh_unblockable = "false"/>
    <reaction>Data/Attacks/reaction_medfront.xml</reaction>
    <impact_dir x="0.0" y="0.0" z="1.0"/>
    <block_damage min="0.5" max="0.7"/>
    <damage min="2.0" max="3.1"/>
    <force val="20000"/>
</attack>

I deleted the lines

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    <materialevent></materialevent>
    <stab_dir type="heavy" x="0.0" y="1.0" z="0.0"/>

And

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    <sharp_damage min="2.3" max="3.8"/>

And also set <flesh_unblockable> to false, allowing the character to block it.

first i he uses one hand to strike because that is the way the animations were set up in the file and when i tried to use both hands i got mixed results. then the blood was not a mistake, i wanted blood because it is my equivalent to braking a skull open or other body part. then the stabbing through was a miss judgment on my part of of long the hammer was when making animations.
oh and i have been doing this awhile so please do not explain to me how an xml file works when i have i already know, i take it as an insult to my intelligence. the third is not the same as the second (i might have missed placed the text in the video).

[Constance]

It is not only info to you, but it might be good for other people seeing the post. But otherwise, I just thought that suddenly switching from two-handed to one-handed for a huge war hammer just looked weird.

[Advance123]

I don't think switching from two-handed to one-handed for a single attack in and of itself is that weird; you'd be using the momentum from your body to make the attack quicker and stronger. The problem is that you'd stagger and have to recover and unfortunately, I don't think Overgrowth has code for recovery animations after attacks, especially not for attacks that big. That's why it looks weird in this case. If you could animate him maybe taking a step back then putting the weapon back in both hands instead of it looking like the attack was nothing and moving it back quickly, then it'd be much better, but I don't know how possible that is.

The animations and weapon look alright, though.

[samjb1992]

It is not only info to you, but it might be good for other people seeing the post. But otherwise, I just thought that suddenly switching from two-handed to one-handed for a huge war hammer just looked weird.

Timbles:
i see your point on the xml part of your comment, it is a good idea to show how to change these things for others. i do not agree how ever on the "two handed to one handed" part 100 percent. he uses one hand as "advance123" said for a quicker attack and uses the momentum to do it.

Advance123:
i will work on making turner stager a little as part of the actual attack animation and see how that looks.

and thank you both for the helpful input, i will look at my animations and edit them so they look a little more realistic.

[Macrauchenia]

I agree the animations look a little wonky, but the weapon is pretty cool. Looks brutal.

[samjb1992]

I agree the animations look a little wonky, but the weapon is pretty cool. Looks brutal.

i am working on some tweaked animations. though what is funky about the animations to you (just so i have an idea of what all needs to be tweaked)?

[Macrauchenia]

It seems when the weapon makes it's impact there isn't any force behind it particularly. Maybe make more of a "windup" animation before the impact.

[Endoperez]

Have you looked up any animation principles? Those can help a lot.

For example, anticipation, arcs and readable keyposes are a really good help in planning an attack animation.

https://www.cs.washington.edu/education ... iples.html

[samjb1992]

Have you looked up any animation principles? Those can help a lot.

For example, anticipation, arcs and readable keyposes are a really good help in planning an attack animation.

https://www.cs.washington.edu/education ... iples.html

first off thank you for the help. second i did a lot more research on blender its self and found out that a the attack event key frame in the blend file is what cause overgrowth in this instance to know the attack does damage and does this damage when when this key frame is reached in the animation. so i moved it back in the time line and the animation i made looks and works way better. check out this video i made in my turners secret moves topic the newest vid shows the new attack working much better.
topic: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=17351

also i fixed the one handed thing. he now uses both hands when using the hammer to fight.