Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

[underthedeep]

jeez guys get a room

[Renegade_Turner]

Pirating is a pretty good way to find out if a game is worth your time. Downloading a ripped version of The Witcher 2, for example, gave me enough playtime (about 10 hours) to realise I didn't want to play the game in full, so I didn't buy it, and I deleted it.

[Jacktheawesome]

jeez guys get a room

You're just jealous.

Pirating is a pretty good way to find out if a game is worth your time. Downloading a ripped version of The Witcher 2, for example, gave me enough playtime (about 10 hours) to realise I didn't want to play the game in full, so I didn't buy it, and I deleted it.

Sure. I don't care what people pirate, as long as it's not from Wolfire. Or I don't know, the Red Cross...

[underthedeep]

i steal blood from the red-cross all the time..



IT IS DELICIOUS

[Renegade_Turner]

Pirating is a pretty good way to find out if a game is worth your time. Downloading a ripped version of The Witcher 2, for example, gave me enough playtime (about 10 hours) to realise I didn't want to play the game in full, so I didn't buy it, and I deleted it.

Sure. I don't care what people pirate, as long as it's not from Wolfire.

That's a silly viewpoint to take. What makes them more deserving?

[Korban3]

The beard.

[Jacktheawesome]

Pirating is a pretty good way to find out if a game is worth your time. Downloading a ripped version of The Witcher 2, for example, gave me enough playtime (about 10 hours) to realise I didn't want to play the game in full, so I didn't buy it, and I deleted it.

Sure. I don't care what people pirate, as long as it's not from Wolfire.

That's a silly viewpoint to take. What makes them more deserving?

From a completely objective viewpoint, sure, but if you heard a news story about how someone's bike was stolen, would you care? Now how about your best friend's bike?

[Korban3]

Yeah, you build a relationship and all of the sudden, people start supporting you more, and they want to defend you more. It's really weird.

[Renegade_Turner]

That has nothing to do with it. If it's a rule it's a rule for everyone, not just the people you like.

[Korban3]

Yes, but rules get broken and when people feel like they are actually involved in something, they will be less likely to violate said rules. It's like asking who you want to talk to when you have an issue with a lost credit card: A n automated message robot or a human being? you may not form a relationship with the person or even connect superficially, but there's still something there that isn't with the robot. Same with Wolfire: We, or at least me, support Wolfire so strongly because we can go on the IRC and say "Hey, what's up Ninjas? Makin' a cat huh?" And he's all like "Oh hai, yeah I'm makin' a cat. It's comin' along pretty sweet." unlike talking with a rep from EA via e-mail: "Hi EA rep who I've never talked to before, what are you up to today? What's the next big thing you're working on?" And the only response you get is an automated e-mail full of euphemisms that basically tell you to fuck off and stop bugging us as we have more important things to do than talk to our customers."
Thus I'd feel a lot better pirating some EA game than I would about pirating OG.

[Jacktheawesome]

Exactly.

[Korban3]

Uni-answer.

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[Endoperez]

That's fantastic! I'd like to say that my vocabulatory isn't that grandiose, but, well...

[Korban3]

AW crap. I missed "Grandiose". Thanks for pointing out the obvious flaws Endo. Couldn't just let me wallow about in my blissful ignorance?

[Renegade_Turner]

So basically, your issue is that EA can't chat to you on a man-to-man basis like Wolfire's team can, regardless of the fact that it would be virtually impossible for EA to do so considering the magnitude of people that probably e-mail them with random questions on a daily basis.

I'm sorry, but that doesn't really make it any better. While I would vouch for Wolfire Games and support them long before I'd support EA (and I have, on a number of occasions already), I wouldn't have one rule for one and another for the other. Life shouldn't work that way.

I've been on the IRC on plenty of occasions, and chatted to people like Aubrey about the most infantesimal topics, such as how we enjoyed Fallout 3, but the fact that these guys have the advantage of being able to chat with their fans on a first name friendly basis doesn't change my view at all.

And this is not to undermine or understate the workload that the guys at Wolfire have. They've a lot on their plate and seem to be working almost constantly. But as well as that, they don't have a million people e-mailing them inane questions. Even if EA could answer every e-mail, the opinions and questions would be so diverse and randomised that they wouldn't really be able to form any sort of reliable consensus on what the fans actually want. They'd be able to see some recurring requests, but the effort and manpower it would take to answer all of them would be insane. The least they can do is provide tech support and fix game compatibility issues and glitches. Asking for more is inconsiderate, no matter how much you love to "stick it to the man" that is the big gaming company, and hold the small indie studio up on a pedestal.