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Krav Maga reminds me of Wing Chun. They both make simultaneous use of defense and offense through misdirection of blows and disarming through small joint exploits. I think both styles would be excellent for diversifying multiple enemy combat in Overgrowth.

Obligatory Ip Man footage:

Nice video, Now I want to practice martial arts.

Some taiji swordwork (jian, straight double-edged sword)



The rest are from Youtube user KellyChi's channel, full of videos. Well, videos and slideshows. Some videos are taken with a good camera, some with a cellphone, and some seem to be cellphone photos later composed to videos...
Here's jian, to start with:



Here's a clip with horrible FPS, but even if it's too poor to be a good reference the music is so absurd I just had to share it. Flowers and summer and butterflies and learning to cut the other guy's throat open?



A few different ways to attack while drawing a sword:




And here's some Chinese saber used two-handed. This whole video is variations on a single counter-move, it seems. The saber here looks like it could work decently with the dog broadsword.





Here's an interesting way to get a little more reach, power or possibly both to a slash. Not only is the attacker rotating around his front leg, but his wrists are rotating around each other. With the music and the movements, it doesn't really look like martial arts though.

Here's some European martial artists. The same group practices several different weapons, at least spears and longswords.

Some spear sparring. I like how they react when they're hit/when they evade a hit. Many of their movements would be hard to translate to OG, but parts of it might be helpful.


Some longsword training or very light sparring.


Here it's longswords again, but they're focusing on the hands and forearms of their opponents - and defending their own arms against their opponent's strikes, obviously!



This next video has some big names in European swordsmanship sparring. It's a pity the camera is so poor, this would be excellent otherwise. Every exchange of blows is explained in little text screens that pop up after them, and that's followed by a slow-motion clip of the important parts. Excellent video, in other words, except for the shaking and some focus problems in the footage.



Here's some polish sabre.



Here's some crazy guys hacking at each other with poleaxes/halberds/heavy long things with sharp things in the end. Thankfully they're also wearing armor! I don't think there are that many cool techniques in there, but damn, those are some tough guys.


Here's some perfectly normal looking guys training poleaxe techniques. Damn, that's a huge amount of leverage they can get into those swings!

Here's something a bit different. I found a superb knife fighting video. Not applications, fighting. Killing. Not getting killed. The demonstrator looks like a nice enough guy, loves his wife, has a bit of an obsession with knives, does kung fu, is a grandmaster of his own philippino family style, is a beast of a martial artist... and died in an automobile accident a few years ago. Rest in peace, Apohan Tuhan Hasting Albo.

Suudenly, VIKINGS! Dozens of them! Dozens of videos with dozens of vikings! Fighting!

How are those excitable silly fellows not skewering each other like shish kabobs with those metal weapons?

Untadaike wrote:How are those excitable silly fellows not skewering each other like shish kabobs with those metal weapons?

I think they're just good to not hurt each other accidentally. That's like asking how you can walk out of a fistfight without having had your hair pulled, your teeth broken and your ear bitten off. Those things can happen in fights where people fight unarmed, but it's not that hard to not do them.

I'm much more worried about the guys on horseback. Horses are HUGE, strong animals. If they get scared, they get jumpy, and might trample someone, or kick someone, or throw someone off their back. And these guys have steel weapons clashing together next to those horses' heads...

I just finished looking through this thread, and so far I've seen a lot of fantastic unarmed martial arts. Most of the style posted don't feature kicking too much, and the ones that do show some unrealistic styles that a person wouldn't use in an actual fight. So, Im gonna start throwing up some stuff on kicks and other things as well.

First things first, while Capoeira is cool and looks very nice, it isn't realistic, practical kicking martial art. Neither is Taekkyon. Taekkyon, however, is basically the precursor to Tae Kwon Do. Now, Tae Kwon Do has risen in popularity over the past couple of decades. It is a fantastic martial art and is very efficient.

Here is a wikipedia link for some background info on Tae Kwon Do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taekwondo

Most styles that a person would see practiced today are going to be a sports style of Taekwondo. By sports style, I mean that the style of martial arts has been molded and formed into something that would appeal to a panel of judges at a tournament. So, they aren't accurate representations of what a practical style of Taekwondo would be.

Now onto the kicks!
Im going to list 3 basic kicks for now(one which is already in the game) that most martial art styles implement
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- Front Snap Kick: This kick is already used in Overgrowth and the way it is performed in the game is accurate to how is would be used in a real life situation. You kick out in front of you with the ball of the foot. There is more to the methodology of kick, but I don't find it necessary to explain it since the game already uses it(if someone really wants to know how it works, then I'll give a full explanation).

- Side Kick: This is another kick that is widely used by many other martial arts styles.
Here is a good video explaining and demonstrating the side kick:

I couldn't really see if he is kicking with the blade of his foot in this video, but a proper side kick done with the blade of the foot(the pinky toe edge of the foot). Also, no matter what kick you are throwing, you always have your guard up! And, this is a philosophy that I am taught at my Taekwondo dojang(school), you always go 1 inch with any technique you use, then you quickly bring the technique back to its previous position.

- Round House kick: Probably the most well known kick to man, thanks to Chuck Norris, this kick is sometimes considered the most powerful kick in a martial artists arsenal of techniques, but that is debatable(which I will debate about later on). Here is a good video explaining and demonstrating the round house kick:

There are two different ways to do the round house kick. Both of these ways are shown in the video.


Side note: I know the videos I have posted are referencing to kung fu instrucionals when I am talking about Taekwondo. Since the kicks I have mentioned are very basic kicks that are used in many martial arts, it doesn't matter too much that I am using a kung fu how-to video. The way that these basic kicks are performed aren't going to change too much from style to style.





In my next posts! :
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My following posts will explain how the basic kicks can be done on both front an back legs while in a fighting stance. From there I will also show some more kicks and introduce some other styles of martial arts. Until then!

ShigglesTheKid wrote:My following posts will explain how the basic kicks can be done on both front an back legs while in a fighting stance. From there I will also show some more kicks and introduce some other styles of martial arts. Until then!

Yay! I won't be the only one posting stuff for this thread! (Not that I've been doing it lately...) I'm looking forward to your other posts.

When you say Taekkyon isn't practical, do you mean the videos I posted, or the style in general? I would've thought that it's about as practical as Tae Kwon Do, since the two are closely related.

Endoperez wrote:Yay! I won't be the only one posting stuff for this thread! (Not that I've been doing it lately...) I'm looking forward to your other posts.

When you say Taekkyon isn't practical, do you mean the videos I posted, or the style in general? I would've thought that it's about as practical as Tae Kwon Do, since the two are closely related.

What I meant by Taekkyon not being practical is that it is very dancy and is mainly used for tournaments. There are practical styles of Taekkyon and there are "sports" styles of Taekkyon. This happens for most Martial Arts. I didn't too make it look like I was putting down Taekkyon if that is what it came across, because I like Taekkyon a lot.

Anywho, I will be posting later today. I gotta head to Taekwondo in the next 15ish minutes. Once I get back, I shall share more of my "knowledge" lol

Nice finds, ShigglesTheKid. Very clear for animation purposes.

I love how you get to see in the side kick how the ground (non-kicking) foot is rotated: so the heel is pointed right at the target (at about 2:15 on). It really helps you to get your hip rotated correctly so the power can come right up from the ground, and so you don't bend forward at the waist so much.

The real mod for OG would be that the animals stand on their tarsels, not their heels, so striking with the pinkie edge of the foot would have to be a little different.

And that's what I always understood to be a roundhouse-- the kick in Lugaru is more of a spinning crescent kick than a snap roundhouse. You get lots of roundhouses off the ball of the ground foot in Muay Thai-- short, quick, lots of low ones to the thighs that really take it out of you when they hit.

Here's someone who brings the style to MMA and K1 fights. Check out his hip and ground-foot rotation when he kicks. Ouch.

(Also, check out the combo he uses on the first guy (in the blue and white trunks)-- it's like a quick series of taps to get the guy to guard his head, all just to set up the leg kick.)

That was a very good video of some low roundhouses kehaar. If you actually watch his foot when hoost makes contact with his opponents thigh, you can see he is hitting with the most bony part of the top of the foot. That is exactly what you are supposed to kick with when doing a top of the foot roundhouse.

So, onto what I am going to post for tonight. Well.... it is gonna be A LOT of info. So, in order to have some organization, I am going to separate all the info I am posting tonight into different posts. The first post will continue off of my original post, which is kicks. It will include kicks that are found in Taekwondo and many other martial arts. After that, I will start my next post about fighting stances, which could end being quite long. After that I shall move on to some hand techniques. I will encompass a lot of martial arts for the hand techniques that I am going to mention. Then the next post will focus on grappling and joint locks. That will be followed by joint strikes(strikes using elbows, shoulders, knees). Then I will finish up with a really long post about how all of the things I have mention could be used in the game!

So, get ready for a lot of reading peoples!

Seems like Shiggles might not post the rest of his recommendations. What a pity.


Here's something to cheer everyone up, and to bump this thread.



See? BUMP! Bwahaha.

Seriously speaking, for some reason that looks a lot more dangerous WITH the armour.

holy shit. what a fucked up dangerous thing to do to one of your friends.

that would be the last day that dickhead would have spent in any dojo I ever went to. he would be gone forever.

In other news, here is a pretty neat knife defense:



dunno if it's flashy enough for OG, but it's pretty believable, and is arguably a better response to something like this: