additions to the combat system (Lugaru)

Colicedus · Post by **Colicedus** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:04 am

BunnyWithStick wrote:Let me rephrase: Random button anythings suck.

Screw you...

me want randomness!

ok... what dose everyone else think about a Saving throw system?

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:37 am

As long as it doesn't require the "skill" of mashing random buttons, it might be a sort of good idea

Colicedus · Post by **Colicedus** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:52 am

BunnyWithStick wrote:As long as it doesn't require the "skill" of mashing random buttons, it might be a sort of good idea

well. i would not want to sacrifice my keyboard.
There could be many ways. there is maybe particular keys (thinking Click and Shift as they are the once mainly used) It goes into slowmo so you can see turner Struggling to keep the knife away from his jugular whilst he is pinned down after being Bashed up. this would give him a little more health once he escapes (only a very little) They may be things like...

pressing buttons as they be shown in the screen corner, the longer it takes for you to do that and the less accurate you are the less chance of Survival.

or

the Idea could be Shift to do things corresponding to the situation such as Grabbing the knife and the more you tap it the more chance of grabbing the guys arm and keeping hold of it. and then the Click could be you're attempt to Smash the guy in the face, knock the guy off, or something similar.

or

we Could use the Button masher system as you said. but we don't want that do we?

Grayswandir · Post by **Grayswandir** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:03 pm

What about the pattern style of "saving throws"...where you have to hit a certain button when it flashes on screen or something.

Colicedus · Post by **Colicedus** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:05 pm

I did try to say that; you said it better.

PS: Love the New Avatar

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:16 pm

Looks like the same guy who was obsessed with chopping meat in your other avatar, but I bet it IS the same… thing?

Sage · Post by **Sage** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:21 pm

It would be interesting to see some sort of saving throw... I guess... but I'd prefer to roll out of the way... or quad run.

Also, I wonder if you'll be able to quad run faster in L2? L1 seemed a bit slow...

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:32 pm

It had a realistic catching-up-to-the-cowards speed, but it might be interesting to see it faster

Renegade_Turner · Post by **Renegade_Turner** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:32 pm

BunnyWithStick wrote:Let me rephrase: Random button anythings suck.

Actually, it was good for games like Smackdown for the PS2, where you were getting pinned, so you'd start frantically bashing the buttons to try to kick out. It increased the excitement of the game, especially if you kick out when you don't expect to while bashing the controller and almost jumping off your seat.

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:14 pm

Games that actually encourage you to do that suck even more.

Zantalos · Post by **Zantalos** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:10 am

No, for console games like ps2, it's alright. It just gets a bit silly when you're trying to button mash a keyboard, it's a good way to wear one out (But those aren't random button combinations like left, left, punch, kick, jump, crouch. It's just, "mash any button for 4 seconds!").

But I think saving throws in a fighting game are lame. It should just be the usual shift to reverse, or you get slashed across the back. You don't need to bring in the concept of D&D dice rolls, or three times a day epic manuevers.

So it would be like the second one. You hit shift when the knife is stretched out to stab you (which causes you to grab it), and then click the mouse once you have the knife in your hands to stab them or elbow them away (or just, not click and try to just grapple the knife away). That's just like in L1, but you add in the ending punch yourself (which may or may not be actually necessary if that's all you do at the end...).

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:07 am

Exactly.

Button mashings on console, keyboard, or anything suck, as far as I'm concerned, though, I'm kinda old-fashioned

Grayswandir · Post by **Grayswandir** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:49 am

BunnyWithStick wrote:Looks like the same guy who was obsessed with chopping meat in your other avatar, but I bet it IS the same… thing?

Well, the one I wanted to use stretched the page, so I had to go with this...and yes, its the same cat.

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:13 am

Cat? I thought it was a bear

P.S: Collars are evil

Albab · Post by **Albab** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:06 pm

The new one is the best yet, if you ask me.