ghosts and the paranormal

Ragdollmaster · Post by **Ragdollmaster** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:06 am

There is a few audio and video recordings that you cannot dismiss. A few of them maybe don't prove completely that ghosts exist, but heres two examples-

1: A group of Paranormal Investigators went down to Hellfire Caves in england. They caught a fluctuation on camera seemingly coming out of a room where satanic worship happened many years ago. There was no wind or anything else to dismiss it.

2: There is a video of a lighthouse that is supposedly haunted. An investigator goes into a room where there is only 1 entrance and exit. He leaves for the bathroom, and while he is gone, the camera catches his chair skidding across the floor of the room. the door did not open at ALL .

Those are just 2 fine examples of things you cannot dismiss. They don't entirely prove that ghosts exist, but there is no logical explanation for these events. Therefore called "para"normal events =P

zatoichi · Post by **zatoichi** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:35 am

Obviously I can't prove that those events are not paranormal, the same way that you can't prove they are. I guess it just comes down to whether you choose to believe that it was something normal that wasn't apparent, or that it was something paranormal. In my opinion, unexplained movement of objects has nothing to do with dead people.

Ragdollmaster · Post by **Ragdollmaster** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:47 am

zatoichi wrote:Obviously I can't prove that those events are not paranormal, the same way that you can't prove they are. I guess it just comes down to whether you choose to believe that it was something normal that wasn't apparent, or that it was something paranormal. In my opinion, unexplained movement of objects has nothing to do with dead people.

You misunderstood me- i don't believe ghosts are reincarnations of people, or people's souls or spirits, etc, i just believe in the paranormal in general. The idea of a "spirit plane" is retarded in my opinion.

invertin · Post by **invertin** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:13 am

4th dimension - REAL
4 dimensional creatures - MIGHT BE REAL
Ghosts being 4 dimensional creatures - POSSIBLY
Ghosts being dead people - PROBABLY NOT
Ghosts being magical fairies - NO

Ragdollmaster · Post by **Ragdollmaster** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:35 am

invertin wrote:4th dimension - REAL
4 dimensional creatures - MIGHT BE REAL
Ghosts being 4 dimensional creatures - POSSIBLY
Ghosts being dead people - PROBABLY NOT
Ghosts being magical fairies - NO

I thought the 4th dimension was time???

invertin · Post by **invertin** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:40 am

1D - Line - you can only measure it one way (length)
2D - Square - you can only measure it 2 ways (height and width)
3D - Cube - You can only measure it 3 ways (height, width and length)
4D - "Hypercube" (yes there is a real shape called a hypercube) - You can measure it 4 ways.

Now tell me 4 ways you can measure time.

And I don't mean seconds and minutes, they're the same thing but ones bigger.

Blorx · Post by **Blorx** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:01 am

i don't think that ghosts are dead people...here are my theories:

1. they are their own creatures on this earth designed to make us wonder what the afterlife is like
2. they are their own creatures that help spirits of the actual dead get to where they need to be

weird theories but, that's me

Zaphon · Post by **Zaphon** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:32 am

To v-nix: The reason why Invertin might not believe you were particularly intelligent before you made that post it that you don't always write like you are. No offense! It's just that you should put more time and thought into your writing so you don't end up with sentences like "im up here and theres cakes in you're shoes". Again, no offense. In fact, your post about the dimensions was very smart, I had to think about it for a moment to comprehend everything.

I'm a fairly logical thinker, so I don't really believe in paranormal activity.
Now, you might think "Wow, that's gotta be quite limiting and boring."
But not really. I am quite content to be filled with awe and wonder at what we can see and know;
the beautiful complexity of the world.
But I like to think I'm pretty open-minded, so I don't automatically dismiss
anything. I do find things like this interesting.

zatoichi · Post by **zatoichi** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:59 am

Yay! Someone agrees with me!

Oh, Invertin, time is often referred to as the 4th dimension because we move through three dimensions plus time, making time the "4th dimension". But yeah, stuff like hypercubes exist in our three dimensions plus one more that isn't time, but a more spatial dimension. And maybe time too. Who knows?

invertin · Post by **invertin** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:12 pm

I think time is like the 5th dimension, maybe.

zatoichi · Post by **zatoichi** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:37 pm

I don't really think it matters which you call which.

Spartan X · Post by **Spartan X** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:43 pm

I believe time is made by man

zatoichi · Post by **zatoichi** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:51 pm

Do you mean time is just a perception of humans? Or that humans actually "invented" time? Don't other animals perceive time?

Ragdollmaster · Post by **Ragdollmaster** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:42 pm

I think time is just the flow and progression of the universe. that is why time machines are impossible- you cannot relive a moment, because we live IN the moment. We cannot go back to the past because it already happened, and we can't go to the future because it hasn't happened yet. We can only go to the current moment, which is the current place that the universe is at.

Grayswandir · Post by **Grayswandir** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:12 pm

If you went back in the past, the "present" for you would get "erased" and a new "timeline" would be created. So you could go back, just not forward again, because you'd be on an entirely different path.