NIGHTMARE

rudel_ic · Post by **rudel_ic** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:28 am

I've had whole important meetings with important people in my dreams, and we discussed the fate of the world. The conversation is totally real for me sometimes, but other times, it's surreal thinktalk.

I also talk when I'm asleep, by the way.

Usagi · Post by **Usagi** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:44 am

r_i, I agree about the falling asleep thing; I see it happen to people.

But the red images are different; they aren't one of the "Ten Things You Can Learn By Poking Yourself In The Eye." It's similar to the effect you describe, but distinctly different.

The images I see when I put pressure on my eye (and optic nerves) are geometric and multi-colored. This is an actual 3-D image, very startling, and I can't reproduce it in any way. Which doesn't mean it isn't physiological in origin, of course.

I also get optical migraines (but never get the headaches), though they also are very geometric.

rudel_ic · Post by **rudel_ic** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:48 am

You're a veeery special boy, Usagi.

Seriously, I don't know what it is then. Sounds weird to me. Ask a psychologist, they usually have the necessary broad knowledge or at least know people that have it.

(Psychologist -> Not the guy where you lie on the bench and talk about your homophobic phantasies)

Usagi · Post by **Usagi** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:04 am

Oh, well, it doesn't bother me. I actually like it. It's kinda fascinating to try to figure out if I'm really seeing a 3-D object or if my brain is just farting into my optic nerves.

If the images resolve themselves into a flaming red face that starts to speak to me and give me instructions, then I may go for help, if it's not too late.

If it is too late, I'll just follow the instructions and take over the world. And you can all have swell jobs in my new corporation: Global Domination GmbH.

We'll have headquarters in Germany so r_i can be CEO (I want to be Eminence Gris, but maybe Silb should get that) and because Germany has better beer. But we'll have branch offices around the world (well, duh: check the company letterhead!) so sign up now for your favorite job title.

I guess I'll just be Senior Hood Ornament.

But I don't trust psychologists any more than psychiatrists: I can't trust anybody whose income depends on me never getting better.

PS: My fantasies aren't homophobic, and only some are sexual: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

PPS: Do you mean special as in "Special Education?"

rudel_ic · Post by **rudel_ic** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:49 am

You're right with the special thing, that's what I meant.

Psychology is an empiric science. It's behavioral, cognitive and neuro science. And it's not reduceable to the analysis of abnorm behavior! It actually brings together diverse scientific branches to formalize description of mental processes, behavior, blah. The target is to be able to predict and explain stuff - science.

If you're interested in what causes the patterns, you either go to them or to specialized biologists to get the info.

I only had 3 semesters in psychology, such in-depth things like patterns you think you see when your eyes are closed and you're about to sleep are not beginner material, obviously.

Edit: Why a GmbH? That's cheap, man.. Let's make a freaking RELIGION!!

invertin · Post by **invertin** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:09 pm

rudel_ic wrote:...such in-depth things like patterns you think you see when your eyes are closed and you're about to sleep....

Oddly enough, when I close my eyes I just see random blurry things, like a broken TV in colour, and I cannot go to sleep unless I have something in my head, like an idea for a stik animation, and when I sleep I forget what that is and my dream turns into a huge mess of garbled rubbish.

I always remember the original idea when I wake up though, which is very weird. It's like sleep gives me temporary amnesia(SP?).

Usagi · Post by **Usagi** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:46 pm

Some blogger, quoting a Wiki article wrote:Exploding head syndrome is a rare condition first reported by a British physician in 1988 that causes the sufferer to occasionally experience a tremendously loud noise as if from within his or her own head, usually described as an explosion or a roar.

This usually occurs within an hour or two of falling asleep, but is not the result of a dream. Although perceived as tremendously loud, the noise is usually not accompanied by pain. Attacks appear to increase and decrease in frequency over time, with several attacks occurring in a space of days or weeks followed by months of remission.

Sufferers often feel a sense of terror and anxiety after an attack, accompanied by elevated heart rate. Attacks are also often accompanied by perceived flashes of light or difficulty in breathing.

The condition is also known as 'auditory sleep starts'. The noise may be accompanied by a perceived bright flash of light, and the light on its own is known as a 'visual sleep start'.

Note that Exploding Head Syndrome does not actually cause one's head to explode.

Jack wrote:Oh yeah? Well, look what happened to me!

Szs315 · Post by **Szs315** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:46 pm

Really good gif, genious. Anyways, this sounds really freaky.

wormguy · Post by **wormguy** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:01 pm

Wow. I totally have those sleep starts all the time. One time, I fell asleep on my couch without even noticing, and all of a sudden a lion seemed to come out of nowhere and roar and pounce on me. I suddenly jumped, and the TV was off and the lights were off. Weirdest thing ever. But I didn't know there was a name for the phenomenon.

Ink · Post by **Ink** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:28 pm

Last night i dreamt that I was cut open and my guts dropped to the floor.
It was very painful. Then I woke up, and I realized that I had gas.

The worst dream I ever had was after taking LSD.
But I'm not going to talk about that dream, because I can't remember what part was the trip and what part was the dream. Or if the whole thing was a big trip.

I'm going to stop talking now.

Zaphon · Post by **Zaphon** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:41 pm

I've experienced the "falling" Crill3 and Usagi talked about, it's pretty freaky.
It really shocks me when it happens; I sit up and gasp loudly.
I haven't "fallen" in a while though, it seemed to happen several times for a while, and then it suddenly stopped.
When I dream it's like many mentioned, like it's really happening, even though the dream is absolutely absurd.

Like the time I dreamed I was walking home, wearing nothing but a bathtub.
Yeah, it beats me. How do you wear a tub? I think there was a hole for my legs,
or maybe my legs just went through the bottom like it wasn't there.
And I held it up while I walked, occasionally waving and smiling to people passing by,
who didn't seem to think a bathtub was an unusual garment.

I often dream of more sensible things, and they are incredibly clear.
I once dreamt I got a new game, (a N64 game; it was a while ago)
and when I woke up I actually went to look at it and was very disappointed it wasn't there.
As with other posters; I can't really remember sounds from my dreams, sometimes I remember what people said,
but not in what voice, and so on.

Oh, and I see images on the inside of my eyelids like Usagi, though possibly a bit different.
It's hard to explain. What I can explain is that it's very strange.
Images are often something earthly, so to speak, but they glide, move or morph into something… else.
It’s sometimes like a little clip from a drug-laden, trippy movie, like a boat with a shark-like mouth.
It can be hard to grasp the concept of what things are, or hold onto them. I don’t always see them though,
I think they appear when I’m more relaxed, or maybe it has something to do with light, I’m not sure.

On the topic of nightmares, I've had some, but only when I was younger.
They scared me somewhat, but when I remember them they just make me laugh.
Like the dream when I was in the top floor of my house, and there were pieces of excrement floating in the air, bobbing gently up and down. There were some people there; I think they were my brother and a cousin. Suddenly my grandmother, of all people, comes out of nowhere and starts chasing me, and I scream and run into my brothers’ room and throw myself into the bed and hide under the sheets. This is the freaky part; my grandma pokes me in the back through the sheets and I wake up, clearly feeling the sting in my back.
The weird thing is that my grandmother is a very nice person, I'm not afraid of her at all. I guess that made it even scarier that she was suddenly evil and chasing me.

Uh, well, I’ve ranted long enough.
So, uh, Ink, drugs. How’s that workin’ out for ya? (Oh, I’m not really trying to be an ass, I’m just curious. ;P)

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:19 pm

Just to clarify things, when I dream it's as if my "This is weird" reflex has been turned off, since I don't normally see things in black and white through some kind of spherical fuzzy window. So yes, like everyone else I don't notice that things are completely unlike anything that normally happens in the physical world, mainly since they're in black and white and I'm watching them through a crystal ball thing that's been flattened slightly.

Ink · Post by **Ink** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:49 am

I quit doing drugs last year.. went to rehab for six months.
Now I'm clean. Just smoking cigarettes and having a drink every now and then.

Oh, and the things with moving images on the side of your eyelids.
It's easy to do it.. just keep your eyes on an object. it really doesn't matter what it is, because you won't look at it. (it's kinda weird, I know. But it's hard to explain). Now try to focus on something to your right or left (or any direction really, just find another object.), keeping your eyes still and not blinking. I tried this while writing now, and i found that my ice-tea went spinning in a circular motion. it's "laggy", though.
When I think about it, it's quite similar to tripping on LSD and looking yourself in the mirror. Suddenly your face starts to morph. It's freaky. :S

Colicedus · Post by **Colicedus** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:14 am

I Just remember a really out of it Dream a while back.

I was some rouge killer robot cyborg dude with a Chainsaw. I also had brain implants. They were cool. I had my owen CD drive and USB port sticking out the side of my head.

I could cut open some ones head, take out there brains and put particular parts in to gather information by stuffing them in the CD drive.

the Strange part was everything else was in a Medieval world and chicks had an obsession for wearing leather thongs.

Then I was Trying to buy an oversized Fridge from an asian midget who was trying to sell it for fifty tomatoes when the price tag said 2 dollars.
Once I was able to get the Fridge I had to open it. then this avalanche of food happened.

I had to use my chainsaw to get out of the mess. then the Veggies turned on me and were trying to eat me. Then there was a boss, like in a computer game made out of the worst thing of all time. It was a ten story tall baked been tin full of baked beans.

at that point I woke up from wanting to gag.
Baked beans are Foul!

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:33 am

Nay, they are yum. They have foul potential energy in the form of gas though.