Re: Video games have been ruined forever... again!
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:12 pm
Let me ask... why his isn't in Randomness section?
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I meant to post this in Randomness, it's here because I made a mistake.Saedz wrote:Let me ask... why his isn't in Randomness section?
We live in the future because I can't speak German. I couldn't go to a German shop and buy ice cream, but I can discuss such a complex topic with you. Well, there were some mistakes in the translation, but it's still pretty good.My question is: Why do we live in a SciFi future? And, what point wants Adrienne Shawn to prove, if race and gender doesn't matter for the player? Wheres the difference between her disseration? is there any on purpose?
It's been ineffective and a failed effort.Endoperez wrote:
There's another problem with this anger directer towards Anita.
Since staring at her arguments too long will show you how retarded it sounds. Anyone can disprove Anita, I COULD.Since there are so many people who are willing to say anything to prove her wrong,
Like everything you or Anita have ever brought up against games, it's a small issue that means fuck all and the only way to expand the Eye of Tumblr is to complain anyways.you can't trust anyone who says she is wrong before you have verified why they're saying that. It might be a real issue, or totally made up or some small mistake that isn't a problem at all.
Not really no.This makes it hard to find good discussion about her videos, anywhere.
Social Justice Cultist is evolving!As you said, there's no intellectual environment,
This is a classic SJW move, claim there is no debate or no argument.so there's nowhere to have an actual debate...
I can do this in 4 words:It spreads awareness, which is good, but people need to discuss those ideas. Then, whether they agree or disagree, we get new ideas. New, interesting games, and new, interesting ideas about what games should be.
Because Anita.For example, why is a pink bowtie on a girl-character's head bad?
To realize Anita's full of shit?I am a 3D artist, and I agree that it is very lazy. It took me a long time to see why it's a problem. I think it was a whole year!
...It's like adding a top hat to every male character to show that they're male, even if they're a warrior in steel armor, or a monstrous alien in a space ship, or a pirate, or a cave man. The top hat is a symbol of a specific sort of man, and making all the men follow that standard would be bad.
This.kibaoo wrote:Doesn't matter, had sex.
Then this will be is easy as hell.no seriously, =D we are both agreeing about the topic.p
I can't understand you for shit. But I'm interpreting this as Feminist Frequency being a good thing and needs the unanimous support of the people regardless of how right or wrong they are.It is more a Ideology buisness and because of Computergames are an industry nowadays, which concerns more about sales figures than emancipation, projects like Feminist Frequenzy needs solidary support by the people.
About a non-issue that only affects women, who need to run over to men and go "No no. You need to pay attention to me again".Some facts or conclusions may be worng but it is the only way to spread awareness.
Wrong. Because you can censor everything and YouTube hasn't been brought down by DDoS attacks in forever. That, and it's popular.That is why they choose Youtube as thier voice.
Wrong and more wrong.and Some people may argue about Sarkeesians behaviour, that she disabled the commentsection and this classifies her as a "feminazi" or something,
Because fuck the first Amendment. #Amirite?but i can fully understand why she did it.
There's that intellectualism again.Youtube isn't a proper publicly accountable enviroment where people actually have to think before posting thier opinion.
This matters why?The users personality isn't open to the public, because of pseudonyms which don't have to deal with reputations, which is on common basis a hot topic in social, political and scientific affairs.
There it is again.The actual discussion needs the real intellectual enviroment.
I argued with you for 5 months! I tried logical arguments, I posted scientific research, I asked for empathy.Phoenixwarrior141 wrote:
This is a classic SJW move, claim there is no debate or no argument.so there's nowhere to have an actual debate...
This is Latin for: "I don't want to argue this point."
1. So you are saying she should have not gotten any money, some men agree with her feminist ideas (which makes them bad), and she doesn't change her views even though lots of people tell her she shoul1: People rant about Anita's behavior because she jacked your money and now has an army of white knights (Some aren't even gamers) and manginas to defend her, and will never submit to criticism if it doesn't suit her.
2: She's a feminazi because she wants games made her way regardless of what people want or the developer's creative intentions. That means she automatically intersects with my beliefs and is a fucking shithead.
It was more then that I thinkEndoperez wrote:
I argued with you for 5 months!
But your Feminist Gods did not approve so you went back to "DOX. WHINE. BITCH." for Khorne's favor.I tried logical arguments,
I've posted studies in this topic that proved you wrong. That games don't need diversity, so you're wrong by default.I posted scientific research,
Standard SJW Actions Counter: 1.I asked for empathy.
No but you want to argue on actual grounds since you don't consider this an "Actual" discussion.That is the opposite of "I don't want to argue".
This shit has consumed hours of my day for the past 5 months. Ignoring it isn't as easy as you'd like to think.You ignored it all.
No. Profiting of her work does nothing to help her credibility when she can say whatever she likes and make millions.1. So you are saying she should have not gotten any money,
For the most part, no. However since the fine "Men" over at Polygon consider themselves feminists and will GLADLY harass a guy over a shirt, I think it's the thing that should be handled with caution.some men agree with her feminist ideas (which makes them bad),
Because they're wrong. But social justice shitheads don't know what that words mean.and she doesn't change her views even though lots of people tell her she shoul
Doesn't make it right.She has the right to earn money.
See above.I am allowed to agree with her.
See above.She doesn't have to change her views to suit your tastes.
No.Are you saying that she, a feminist, is wrong because she should be poor, alone, and do what she's told?
1: This is a strawman. You simplified my argument to make it easy to attack. She's wrong because she's plastering her beliefs on everything.2. "She is a feminazi because she intersects with my beliefs." really? Dude, you are saying she is wrong because you don't believe her.
That means you don't want to argue. You ignore different viewpoints and keep insulting people.
1: This forum is a public space. Anyone can join for any reason.kibaoo wrote:Do you realize that your post shows exactly the need for a public enviroment where people can respond to this topic and argue on a intellectual basis. Youtube or this forum can't offer this, because it's a privat place.
I can't tell if u mean this serious or u PheonixWarrior141 are just trolling. Infact i don't change my opinion because i don't care much about shittalking in forums.
What?!btw u should know that the main concern for political and social communication is emancipation,
Contradiction.which requires feminism, because emancipation doesn't know genderroles.
FemFreq's writer has commended stores that ban "sexist" games and wants them ALL gone.The channel Feminis Frequenzy is for the people, it is a small bit of education not a hatred manifesto of a feminazi.
Wrong. We live in a matriarchy if anything. The fact men can't go into sewing circles or book clubs without getting flak but a woman can easily sympathy for sports problems (A mostly male past time) or even join a football team if she tries hard enough. Any sexism is in favor of women if anyone.You have to change ideology first before change the acting. That is why feminists refer to Popculture which tells alot about its society and if u take a close look it is indeed sexist. Men and Women gets simplified to thier genderoles.
If Games are geting more emancipated,
Whaaaat?perhaps a little change comes to Society and your Brain too.
Here we go again.The argument "Games are fine" is just rubish. Games may have the potential becoming as great as Movies.
But most of them are just shit and full of genderroles,
or just shit and boring...
No, you posted a Youtube video, I checked the original research, the same author's other researched, learned what she was actually saying and thanked you for giving me new information. Compare to how you reacted to me posting research: you randomly insulted me for having posted science, as if it was a bad thing.Phoenixwarrior141 wrote:I've posted studies in this topic that proved you wrong. That games don't need diversity, so you're wrong by default.I posted scientific research,
Battle up a 90 degrees hill if you want. I'll be there to push you down.
"ZEAL AND FURY ARE REWARDED WITH VICTORY"
- Anita.
Feminism has a theory on that:Wrong. We live in a matriarchy if anything. The fact men can't go into sewing circles or book clubs without getting flak but a woman can easily sympathy for sports problems (A mostly male past time) or even join a football team if she tries hard enough. Any sexism is in favor of women if anyone.
Which means I'm right and the SJWs are arguing about a giant non-issue.Endoperez wrote: No, you posted a Youtube video, I checked the original research, the same author's other researched, learned what she was actually saying and thanked you for giving me new information. Compare to how you reacted to me posting research: you randomly insulted me for having posted science, as if it was a bad thing.
The research said players don't need diversity for the reasons usually given.
I also looked at a girl yesterday.Also that Anita "quote" might be libel.
So feminism restates the obvious in ways that make it sound intellectual.Feminism has a theory on that:
A man doing sewing is seen as weak (physically and as a person) because he is like a woman.
A woman doing a physically demanding sport is seen as a strong personality because he is like a man.
Because female coded things are women coming into a dominantly male past-time because it suddenly became "Cool".The problem is female-coded things are traditionally valued less than male-coded things.
In other wordsFeminism tries to change this so that women can be powerful, but also so that men can sew, and be kind and emotional, cry if they want to...