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Re: NoBama? GoBama?

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:15 pm
by Ragdollmaster
The reason the general population living in America has high standards of living is that America has been managed rather shitty since the colonials severed from Britain for independence. Instead of setting long-term goals, about 95% of all governmental officials, no matter what position they held, only planned for the present or maybe a year, two, or five into the future. It's like a race- if you waste all your energy (in this case, metaphorically representing resources) in a sprint, you're going to start to slow down (the great depression.) Then maybe, after a tiny rest, you'll start trying to sprint again, and you'll have these little dips in between (periods of rescission in between the 20th/21st centuries), and then finally start to slow down for good. As the independent United States of America has been around for not even a whole three centuries, it's a relatively new country, like much of the western hemisphere.

But I digress; instead of focusing on important ideals of life and advancements in various aspects of education, technology, government, and the ilk, much of the money and resources available to America have been blown off on countless products and projects that end up completely useless and/or unnecessary.

As for WWII; the bulk of the allies were from the USSR, France, and Britain, along with many smaller European countries that weren't under the control of Axis forces(Italy, Poland, Germany, and I think a few others I'm missing were under control of the Axis). Americans only came in a little later- they originally didn't even want to get involved. Then when a few Japanese suicide bombers attacked Pearl Harbor, they had to retaliate. This came in the form of entering the war and later on the first detonation of a nuclear weapon. Admittedly, D-Day was a major contribution from the US, though it was a full-scale invasion that involved all of the allies, and Nagasaki/Hiroshima didn't have any sort of impact on WWII; true that it ended the Pacific war, but the sheer excessive firepower killed over 220,000 people on August 6th and 9th, the overwhelming majority of which were civilians, a good chunk of them who probably wouldn't have fought for Japan anyways. Not the proudest moment in American history, even if it had to be done.


Obama might prove to be a nice change for the office, though. His campaign certainly seemed promising, but realistically, there's a fear that all or most of those promises might end up unfulfilled.

[By the way Starzz, your defense kind of failed. You basically repeated what Ren said and went "No" or something sarcastically.]

Re: NoBama? GoBama?

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:05 pm
by Count Roland
Change is not going to happen just because there's a different person not letting laws pass.

Re: NoBama? GoBama?

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:30 pm
by Renegade_Turner
Lol did anyone else notice Starrz not addressing any of my points and instead trying to flame randomly and use the fact I use "lol" as some sort of focal point for his whole post? Lol because me using an acronym detracts from my historical accuracy. How do you know more about history than I do? You think America saved everyone in World War 2. lol? Come on, I told you that I'd concede the point if you actually backed up some points with evidence. However, you decided to ramble on with random bullshit that didn't address anything I said and just circumnavigated my whole body of points by using "lol" and "like".

Wow, I knew you were 12, but I didn't think you'd actually respond like such a child. You clearly can't handle debate much, can you?

Starrz wrote:But seriously, I just lost about ten percent of a rat's ass I respected you before. Thank for that valuable piece of shit.
lol you respected me? that's funny, i never respected you. i only remember you as the overemotional child that cried because everyone on the forum didn't instantly love him.

By the way, support for my point was as follows:
Ragdollmaster wrote:[By the way Starzz, your defense kind of failed. You basically repeated what Ren said and went "No" or something sarcastically.]
invertin wrote:Ren, it's moments like these that remind me why I love you.
Support for your point was as follows:
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Oh wait...there was no support for your point, was there?

Re: NoBama? GoBama?

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:15 am
by Count Roland
I think I posted something supporting your point too, but I forget.

Re: NoBama? GoBama?

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:57 am
by Grayswandir
Oh, I remember him now! Its the member who got really angry because I called him a failed Chuck Norris clone!

Re: NoBama? GoBama?

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:02 pm
by Ragdollmaster
[email protected]


I think we scared Starzz away, though.

Re: NoBama? GoBama?

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:02 pm
by Renegade_Turner
Me And Jay's Essay On Josef Stalin 782 days ago

"Josef Stalin : Social Policy On Hookers And Cake"

Josef Stalin was a fat, hairy bitch. He had always been known for his sneeky ways in which he tricked young cake entrepreneurs into selling him their most prized cakes at low prices, or by signing a legal contract. This was further displayed in the Lemon Merangue Incident of 1938 in which Josef Stalin forced Willie Stroke to sign a credit note to the value of 9000 merangue pies. Yagoda, the head of the NKVD, Stalin's secret police, was quoted as saying,
"The lemon merangue pies were of a smooth and creamy nature. I don't know how Stalin does things like this, but the cake is now in our posession and we are carrying out an investigation to determine the quantity of the aforementioned cake as we speak."
Shortly afterwards, Yagoda was found in the NKVD storage room gorging on the pies, and when Stalin was told, he was furious. Yagoda was executed later that week. In his place, Stalin assigned Patkov McCrotchiev. McCrotchiev was a firm supporter of Cakism and that aroused Stalin.
During McCrotchiev's Reign Of Cake he imported some of the most prestigious cakes in all the land. Such was the infamous Black Forest Gateaux, which later led to his expulsion from The Three Musketeers. The impact of egg mayonaise on the Soviet Union was huge. Arsetiev McWilly is quoted as saying,
"This is a land free of sour sugar. We in Stalin's firm bosom have enjoyed years of savoury desserts and golden hookers."
McWilly was a known abuser of heroin and cocaine. The source of this attributed quote has been heavily debated over the past years, and its reliability is undetermined.
Stalin's biggest achievement was the Rule By Decree Act of 1940, which allowed him to sign over 10,000 decrees in his time, the first of which was the Decree Of Cake, stating that he, Stalin, would be given sole ownership of all the cake in the Soviet Union from that point forward and with the additional clause that all children be employed in puppy making factories. The reason for the additional clause in the decree is unknown.
Stalin began a campaign of Collectivisation which forced all the bakers in the rural area to allow their produce to be taken. It was claimed that the cake was for the mine workers, but many believed Stalin was stashing the cake in his mammy's attic. Stalin was quoted as saying,
"There's not enough. We need more cake. If any of you are hiding cake from me, I swear I'll kill you. I'LL KILL YOU ALL. What're you looking at, monkeyman? I fucked yo' momma bitch. Come on, let's go you fat mothafu-...(report finishes for unknown reasons)"

Re: NoBama? GoBama?

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:10 am
by Groveller
In Soviet Russia, cake.

Thet is oll. Beck tu werrk.