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Re: Download Blocker
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:46 am
by tokage
You know, this kind of thread is the prime example, why this sort of child protection software is useless. You just can't prevent the user to ask questions on forums and getting the necessary knowledge to circumvent the protection, unless the protection program uses restrictive white lists for the sites you are allowed to visit. And when you start white listing, meaning allowing only certain URL and blocking everyhing else, internet access really get's meaningless, so that is not really an option.
Re: Download Blocker
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:51 am
by Untadaike
If they change the password Sandurz, you can try a common back-up password that is built in to a bunch of programs of the like in case m&d are forgetful: ~frontdoor
Probably won't work, but worth a shot if they get smart and switcheroo the password.
Re: Download Blocker
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:18 am
by Endoperez
tokage wrote:You know, this kind of thread is the prime example, why this sort of child protection software is useless. You just can't prevent the user to ask questions on forums and getting the necessary knowledge to circumvent the protection, unless the protection program uses restrictive white lists for the sites you are allowed to visit. And when you start white listing, meaning allowing only certain URL and blocking everyhing else, internet access really get's meaningless, so that is not really an option.
I agree, the software doesn't work. What his parents should have done, and what I intend to do in the future, is to not allow them to have a computer in their own room. Headphones only to keep the noise down, the monitor set up against a wall, in a room where the parents/the rest of the family spend lots of time.
Even if a blocker works, the parents won't know what their child wants to do, and the child has no reason to tell them that. That can be quite harmful. Having the computer set up so the parents can see what she does solves that problem, and the child might actually ask what she's allowed to do.
Also, no full admin rights (program installation and some other rights would come once the kid understands enough English, or the concept of malware), or access to the router password, or to the parents' personal files.
Re: Download Blocker
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:07 am
by Eagle0600
I would like to say right now that I do not condone this. At all.
BTW, what is your parents' number? Either will do.
Re: Download Blocker
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:00 pm
by BlackHole
Ah... remembers me of the good 'ol times. Times when I was 12 years old and administrator of our entire home network... and 'unofficial' admin at school. Security can't stop me.
Anyway, I think you should try to convince your parents that downloading is essential to your success in life, rather then bypassing the security.
Offtopic: Gotta agree, the see-if-I-can-beat-the-system method is a lot more fun, though.
- Black
Television is more interesting than people. If it were not, we should have people standing in the corners of our rooms.
Re: Download Blocker
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:20 pm
by Sandurz
Endoperez wrote:I agree, the software doesn't work. What his parents should have done, and what I intend to do in the future, is to not allow them to have a computer in their own room. Headphones only to keep the noise down, the monitor set up against a wall, in a room where the parents/the rest of the family spend lots of time.
Even if a blocker works, the parents won't know what their child wants to do, and the child has no reason to tell them that. That can be quite harmful. Having the computer set up so the parents can see what she does solves that problem, and the child might actually ask what she's allowed to do.
Also, no full admin rights (program installation and some other rights would come once the kid understands enough English, or the concept of malware), or access to the router password, or to the parents' personal files.
It's in our basement/family room, right up against the wall.
Meaning at night, I do my comp shenanigans.
Re: Download Blocker
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:46 pm
by TheBigCheese
You see, what they should have done was to install a silent screen capture and keylogger software that would log all actions on the computer. Much harder to get around than those internet blockers.
Untadaike wrote:If they change the password Sandurz, you can try a common back-up password that is built in to a bunch of programs of the like in case m&d are forgetful: ~frontdoor
I seriously doubt that Windows would have a back-up password. That completely nullifies the point of a password in the first place.
Re: Download Blocker
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:58 pm
by Sandurz
TheBigCheese wrote:You see, what they should have done was to install a silent screen capture and keylogger software that would log all actions on the computer. Much harder to get around than those internet blockers.
Fortunately they aren't, ahh, computer literate.