Turner Starting as a Hero

[invertin]

The only problems that might arrive would be tuning down the difficulty to fit a tutorial. If a key point were to have multiple enemies, it might be hard to make it into a tutorial, considering that the only ones who would be playing the tutorial would be those who are completely new.

Maybe some scenes aren't playable? Players don't need to beat the Alpha Wolf, all they really need to know is that Turner beat him.

[Ozymandias]

Evil twin brother? lolcorny.

Jeff is corny?

[kehaar]

I'm sure that with rabbits, rats, dogs, cats, and wolves they won't limit the Hero character to just Turner. There'll be awesome opportunities to use different points of view.

You can already play Lugaru as a wolf, with one different animated punch, different speed and strength. Once every animal has a slightly different combat style and body language, and with the great artwork, their won't be many limits to stories.

[Renegade_Turner]

Evil twin brother? lolcorny.

Jeff is corny?

*Nods* Very corny. He even tastes like corn. And there's lots of corn bits in his...cereal.

[nutcracker]

Ergo, jeff is food

[Zaphon]

He is pretty tasty!

[Ozymandias]

Evil twin brother? lolcorny.

Jeff is corny?

*Nods* Very corny. He even tastes like corn. And there's lots of corn bits in his...cereal.

We'll need lots of butter and salt for someone this corny.

[TheBigCheese]

Take Assassin's Creed, you're known right off the bat as the best assassin in the guild, but that doesn't mean they throw the final boss right at you in the beginning

Though, in Assasin's Creed, you have been demoted and must earn your way back up to the top.

Starting as a Hero isn't a game breaking point by any means, but it's something to consider when trying to make the game new-user-friendly.

[Renegade_Turner]

...what the hell does that have to do with being buttery and salty? Stop posting off-topic.

[Zantalos]

Take Assassin's Creed, you're known right off the bat as the best assassin in the guild, but that doesn't mean they throw the final boss right at you in the beginning

Though, in Assasin's Creed, you have been demoted and must earn your way back up to the top.

Pretty much the same situation Turner is in, no money, no weapons, no status. Plenty of room for improvement.

In my opinion, tt actually makes sense to have some kind of exceptional background so that later stuff you accomplish in the game makes sense for your character to actually be able to do. Like GTA: San Andreas, you're just an Average Joe gang member straight out of prison and then for no reason other than you got a brain transplant and a full personality change, in the course of about 3 weeks you're a multimillionaire and control the largest crime empire in the city.

[VerdantPlanes]

Well, any good story is really about the characters being changed by what they experience, right? I think just in terms of story there has to be some growth to make it interesting.

[kehaar]

... and change can take so many directions, even when you start with a really competent badass protagonist.

Like the hero can be totally burned out and cynical, drunk, addicted, emotionally numb, whatever, and rediscover their humanity and the urge to do something useful-- that's a pretty handy story arc for detective/noir stories. --like William Gibson's Neuromancer, Casablanca, etc, etc.

Or their brains can be scrambled and they start to regain the ability to think and remember, like the Bourne movies, the first Rambo, One flew over the cuckoo's nest-- the book, not the movie: the whole story's written as the thoughts of the "Chief", the big Indian guy who's been committed to the mental ward. He's not dumb or crazy like everyone thinks, but at the start he believes he is.

[Wilbefast]

Or maybe I'm just rambling. Or maybe I wanted to make a spiffy graph. Still, I'd like to know how Turner is going to be viewed in game. Whether as a hero or starting lower.

When intelligence goes up, happiness goes down: See, I made a graph. I make a lot of graphs



I agree with your idea but I don't think your graph conveys it properly - it suggests that in both cases the player's interest plateaus at a given level, when in fact the reason most games feature a slow aquisition of power and abilities is to keep the player from losing interest: giving them everything at once would make for a hard-to-stomach beginning and a boring middle to end, in other words you'd have a sort of exponential decay of interest.

Think regulation of hormones - it has to be done it small bite sized pieces, otherwise you grow breasts with beards and nobody wants that!

[Renegade_Turner]

I dunno about that, some people have weird fetishes.

[Wilbefast]

I dunno about that, some people have weird fetishes.

Stop projecting - besides, all women have beards in Ireland, that's why you all come abroad and steal everyone else's...

It's that damn Irish accent that does it