Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

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Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

Post by Shippage » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:17 am

Hey guys, I made a video on Overgrowth hoping to help some intermediate players and some newer players. I learned all of these things from the wiki and playing myself, I'm sure you expert players know all of these but tell me what you think of the video!

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Re: Overgrowth - Tips, Techniques, and Glitches

Post by Korban3 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:32 pm

Hahaha! That song works so well. That's a very useful video for new players, although I'm not sure if crouching makes you jump higher. You forget to mention dodging too. But oh, that song is great for it. I don't believe this needs two thread though, just a heads up ;)

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Re: Overgrowth - Tips, Techniques, and Glitches

Post by Jacktheawesome » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:20 pm

One thing I'm interested in is how you have the game. I don't see a preorderer marker there.

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Re: Overgrowth - Tips, Techniques, and Glitches

Post by Korban3 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:28 am

Ah, I missed that. Good eye, Jack.
I need to stop making so many of these...
I need to stop making so many of these...
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Re: Overgrowth - Tips, Techniques, and Glitches

Post by Jacktheawesome » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:39 am

No no Korban. Ones referencing Monty Python don't even count. Especially that sketch. But seriously, Shippage. We don't take kindly to OG piraters in these parts. Good excuse or report.

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Re: Overgrowth - Tips, Techniques, and Glitches

Post by Shippage » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:25 am

Korban3 wrote:Hahaha! That song works so well. That's a very useful video for new players, although I'm not sure if crouching makes you jump higher. You forget to mention dodging too. But oh, that song is great for it. I don't believe this needs two thread though, just a heads up ;)
That's because these are tips and tricks, not a basic tutorial on the game.

As for jumping higher, It defiantly worked in Lugaru so it sort of seems to make sense to have it in Overgrowth, when I thought I noticed a tiny difference in the height of the jump so I went ahead and added it in the video anyways.
Jacktheawesome wrote:No no Korban. Ones referencing Monty Python don't even count. Especially that sketch. But seriously, Shippage. We don't take kindly to OG piraters in these parts. Good excuse or report.
I don't see why you would even care for piraters, they don't affect you in anyway. That's straight up pirateist. I'm not advertising anyone to go pirate the game, in fact I encourage the opposite, to go and support the indie developers, I wanted to try the game out before I invested $30 into it, and torrented games are more of an extended demo, and it's not like I'm taking money from the developers anyways, so nothing negative happened to them. In fact pro things came out of piracy, I like the game and plan on purchasing it when I get the money and I have been recommending the game to friends and I have one other friend that defiantly plans on getting the game. So now can you tell me what is so bad about piracy? Also there is nowhere in the rules that mentions piracy so it wouldn't make sense to report me, maybe if I was telling everyone to steal and posted links to pirate the game, but I'm not, so no rules are being broken. There will always be piraters for every game, and sometimes it can help, so I don't see the problem.

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Re: Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

Post by Korban3 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:01 pm

We understand that, but we are just stating that while it is advertising, it's also illegal. We're glad that you do plan on buying sometime and I understand that there will always be pirates, but we just like to discourage it. I can't even say that I haven't pirated until I could buy a game either, but it's just frowned on a little because it's dishonest. We're not going to boot you from the forum or anything, but you're going to get flak until you have that little preorder flag under your username. That's just the way it is. Some things will never change.

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Re: Overgrowth - Tips, Techniques, and Glitches

Post by Endoperez » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:16 pm

I agree with Korban there.

I care about pirates as much as I care for spammers. I understand why people do it. I may even do something similar, occassionally, in real life, and more often I hear about something I like from someone who learned about it through piracy or spam. However, I'm not proud of that though, and while it's never going to disappear, my life would be ever-so-slightly improved if it didn't exist.

Also, people on the forums often ask for help in solving their problems. Unlike the piracy itself, customer support directed towards unpaying customers can be said to be stealing - the developers lose time, which is worth money and is a limited resource.

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Re: Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

Post by Korban3 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:21 pm

Agreed.

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Re: Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

Post by Shippage » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:33 pm

I know what you guys mean, I frown upon people who torrent Minecraft because they cannot afford it, when I myself have an account. I don't see how people asking for help and wasting developers problems is related to any of this though.

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Re: Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

Post by Jacktheawesome » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:35 pm

I think "that's just the way it is" covers it nicely. There are actually many people on the forums who have no problem with pirating, many of them regulars. I only pirate as a last resort with music I can't get on iTunes or Amazon, but that's just me. And in some respect I can see why piraters do such things. However, here's the difference: It's easy to imagine that it's not really stealing if you're planning to buy the game anyways when you're dealing with a company like Ubisoft, where there and thousands of nameless developers and a couple super rich executives. You can't really relate. It's different here though. We know every one of the developers, some of us in person. We consider them to be friends. We're a pretty tight-knit community here. So when someone outside comes and pirates the games, and we know that the developers need that money to finish the game, it just feels like a slap in the face. The other thing is that it is an important sign to wear the preorderer tag. It lets everyone know that you have done your part to contribute to the developers, and in return you get to try their awesome game in development. So yes, to have skipped the "contribute" part to go straight to the "try awesome game" part, and then to show up on the Wolfire forums not hiding it one bit... you are going to get flak. I'm not going to report you. But someone might.

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Re: Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

Post by Shippage » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:39 pm

Jacktheawesome wrote:I think "that's just the way it is" covers it nicely. There are actually many people on the forums who have no problem with pirating, many of them regulars. I only pirate as a last resort with music I can't get on iTunes or Amazon, but that's just me. And in some respect I can see why piraters do such things. However, here's the difference: It's easy to imagine that it's not really stealing if you're planning to buy the game anyways when you're dealing with a company like Ubisoft, where there and thousands of nameless developers and a couple super rich executives. You can't really relate. It's different here though. We know every one of the developers, some of us in person. We consider them to be friends. We're a pretty tight-knit community here. So when someone outside comes and pirates the games, and we know that the developers need that money to finish the game, it just feels like a slap in the face. The other thing is that it is an important sign to wear the preorderer tag. It lets everyone know that you have done your part to contribute to the developers, and in return you get to try their awesome game in development. So yes, to have skipped the "contribute" part to go straight to the "try awesome game" part, and then to show up on the Wolfire forums not hiding it one bit... you are going to get flak. I'm not going to report you. But someone might.
You can report me but I'm not breaking any of the rules. As I said before, I totally understand, you always support indie developers, it goes the same with Minecraft, but I haven't come here to gloat that I've pirated, I've come to share my video that I made to hope to get a bigger audience. This is an awesome game and the developers really do deserve the money but I'm stuck at the point where pirating is my only option, otherwise I would love to support it, and I will support it when I get the money.

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Re: Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

Post by Korban3 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:49 pm

Pirating isn't against the rules, it's against the law. But that besides, I'm glad you made the video because it'll help new folk out and that you plan on paying.

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Re: Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

Post by Jacktheawesome » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:55 pm

Right. As I said, I'm not going to report you. You have done some good in telling your friends and making that informative video. My point was, there are many regulars on this forum, and some might not see it the same way.

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Re: Tips, Techniques, and Glitches for Overgrowth!

Post by Korban3 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:07 pm

Yup.

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