Lugaru 2-Poisons and salves

zip · Post by **zip** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:37 pm

BunnyWithStick wrote:Having your arm just suddenly smack onto your broken arm for some crazy reason as soon as an arm breaks would be:
• Unrealistic
• A bit of a loss to playability
• Extremely strange (Would the first thing you'd think of when your arm broke be "Immobilise Arm NOW or DIE!!!"?)
• Even more unrealistic if it happens immediately
So, I don't think (And hope not) that it'd be automatic, and I think that David just said how you'd control bleeding:
…pressing on a stab wound to reduce bleeding…

Isn't it a pretty natural response to grab onto a part of your body that is in extreme pain? When people break their leg or hand don't they usually grab it?

Zantalos · Post by **Zantalos** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:56 pm

What the heck are you talking about, bws?? (initials, your initials suck to use

)

You're saying that it's unrealistic to grab your arm if it brakes? How could you not grab your arm? If you were to get clubbed in the wrist, braking it, and then let it dangle limply while you fight with your other arm, you are insane. In fact, that would be so unrealistic, Turner would be pronounced a robot who can't feel pain, and his arm would be forever broken (that hair line fracture would continue to brake if you simply allowed it to hang loose, something that would take a few months to heal, would now be permanently mangled, without the use of modern hospitals. You cannot move a broken arm).

I mean damn dude, every time you move your arm it would hurt like a bitch, you HAVE to immobilize your fracture, even if it's just something simple like holding it against your chest with your other arm. It has to happen immediately (your arm is god damn broken), you don't think about it it, hurts you fool! After something like that, you either:

A). Throw/kick sand in their eyes and run the hell away (may also involve kicking them in the balls)

B). Attempt to fight them using your legs, and a hell amount of round house kicks (good luck, you can't really reverse with throbbing pain and no arms)

C.) Give up. You LOSE, good day sir!

Same thing for a knife wound, you'd still grab your wound.

Edit: Sorry for the restatement, Zip beat me to post... I was watching Batman

Colicedus · Post by **Colicedus** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:52 pm

Ok, So i gather ingame its automatic...

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:12 pm

Ooookay, so yeah, depending on the amount of pain, you probably would do that, but as I said, not instantaniously, the first thing you'd think would be "OWWW!!!"

Erm, actually, if it hurt enough it probably would be instantaniously

But as for bleeding control, it wouldn't be the first thing you'd think at all (Either that or prove me wrong again)

Colicedus · Post by **Colicedus** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:45 am

About bleeding control, nobody actually notices pain from bleeding until they see the blood. No joking, I saw My Mate shaving, he got something with his razor. He was bleeding Hard. I was tike "OMFG ^&*%£!"
and he was like, "oh you Hemophiliac, its only a Zit, Grow some balls"

He then walks back to the bathroom and then i hear a "HOLY SLIT!" (Pun Intended) from the room. by that time a fair bit of blood was dribbling down his Neck. and i was like grabbing a Cotton bud and told him to hold it... yadi yadi yadi.

Renegade_Turner · Post by **Renegade_Turner** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:16 am

BunnyWithStick wrote:Ooookay, so yeah, depending on the amount of pain, you probably would do that, but as I said, not instantaniously, the first thing you'd think would be "OWWW!!!"

Erm, actually, if it hurt enough it probably would be instantaniously

But as for bleeding control, it wouldn't be the first thing you'd think at all (Either that or prove me wrong again)

So if you get stabbed, and are bleeding freely, the first thing you would think of to do WOULDN'T be to stop the blood flow somehow?

Zantalos · Post by **Zantalos** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:07 am

Yeah while the effect is a bit more different, the basic principles still apply. When you get stabbed it doesn't matter if you're holding your wound or not, it's still a sharp pain that won't go away if you hold still. The only thing different is that you're actually trying to save yourself from dying. It's a good idea to keep all the blood you have IN your body rather than on the ground, so it makes sense if you were trying to hold your wound closed when you get stabbed, other wise you'd just bleed to death. Oh yeah, plus it hurts alot so you instinctively do anything to stop the pain, even if it doesn't help out much (which is why if you get a sharp object stuck in your gut, you leave it in until the paramedics come).

The only time you'd not want to hold a wound, is if you were actually willing to accept death. You know, like in the movies, the side character gets shot and then looks out at the sky as he bleeds to death. Sometimes a medic runs over to help and snaps him out of it (then they get the cool little shell shock sound effect).

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:10 am

Not everyone would try to do more than just holding your hand on the wound though, at least not instantly

Zantalos · Post by **Zantalos** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:45 am

BunnyWithStick wrote:Not everyone would try to do more than just holding your hand on the wound though, at least not instantly

So you're saying that you'd just grab your wound? That's the same thing as pressing it, as was said! I mean, I'm not suggesting wrapping a tourniquet as soon as you get hurt, all you're doing is closing your wound with your hand. So we're agreeing on the same thing without knowing it!

Wait, as that the same thing you meant about broken limbs? That Turner would just stop fighting and make himself a splint? The only thing that David is doing is putting in realistic reactions to pain. If you break your arm, you're just going to grab it and keep it from moving around limply. If you get stabbed you'll stop the bleeding by applying pressure with your hand as well. That's it, nothing all fancy and out of this world.

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:31 am

• Agreeing and not knowing it is not something I do.
• Grabbing is not the same as pressing, even with wounds
• I like cheese

Zantalos · Post by **Zantalos** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:39 pm

BunnyWithStick wrote:
• Agreeing and not knowing it is not something I do.

... Aww, bitches!

Well WHATEVER! If there was a war, you'd be the first to die.

Seriously, what the hell is so wrong with Turner holding his cuts closed?! You should be grateful Turner knows basic Survival techniques. I mean crap! He knows enough karate to know what he's doing in battle, I think it's pretty clear that Turner could hold his own if he had to. Especially after being a loner for quite some time, surviving like this is something he should have just picked up with experience.

Renegade_Turner · Post by **Renegade_Turner** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:49 pm

Ditto to that and the part about cheese.

BunnyWithStick · Post by **BunnyWithStick** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:47 pm

Agreeing and not knowing as in agreeing to something and not knowing about it, not agreeing and not knowing as two different things

And weren't we talking about what you'd instinctively do, and not what you'd know to do?

Oh, I know.
Both.

Albab · Post by **Albab** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:36 pm

Cheese is so damned unrandom it's painful.

Sage · Post by **Sage** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:40 pm

COMPROMISE TIME LOL

1: Both of you are thinking along the same lines, but not the same exact thing
2: either way it involves the character (turner, or otherwise) to react to being wounded, instead of stumbling a bit.

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