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The problem is that David has said that all mammals will be anthro. Any livestock would have to be non-mammal. Like.. A big lizard or something.

Wilbefast wrote:

Groveller wrote:I don't see that running when badly hurt leads to that. I would think they run because they're intelligent enough to realise dying doesn't serve their purposes.

Somebody has to be peaceful, because if everyone's destroying stuff and nobody's building it, you just get a whole load of corpses and no art, craft or architecture (which makes Aubrey sad).

Build houses out of corpses =)

Wilbefast wrote:

Groveller wrote:Arrogant, yes, feeling superior, yes. But I think for those reasons they wouldn't spend much time honing their skills, content to rely on their natural strength and speed. A brute force and ignorance approach. They don't run because they're not clever enough to understand they can be beaten.

Ah, but aren't they exceedingly well trained in Lugaru? They're even better at reversals and spinning kicks than rabbits, and such skills doesn't generally stem from brute force and ignorance. I guess you can interpret the wolves tenacious nature as stupidity, bravery or fury just as easily, but at the end of the day they still do Kung Fu!

I think that was just an engine limitation. I'm sure the wolves will be more reliant on brute force in overgrowth than kung-fu.

Wilbefast wrote:Hares, blah bli blue bleh blow

What about squirrels =o

Ah! Ozymandias! My favourite poem!

Percy Bysshe Shelley wrote:I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

King of Kings wrote:I think that was just an engine limitation. I'm sure the wolves will be more reliant on brute force in overgrowth than kung-fu.

Bof - perhaps... think it's more because there's only so many ways you can bitch slap someone in the face, and they needed to dodge, dip, duck, dive and dodge in order to not get raped by Turner's house of the flying daggers.

King of Kings wrote:What about squirrels =o

Lol - you fool, everyone knows that squirrel are birds!

King of Kings wrote:Build houses out of corpses =)

I guess that could take shelter under the floating cubes that now infest 3Dania.

Wilbefast wrote:Ah! Ozymandias! My favourite poem!

You must be new around here then =P I like what you did with the quotes though.

Wilbefast wrote:

King of Kings wrote:What about squirrels =o

Lol - you fool, everyone knows that squirrel are birds!

I take resentment to that clearly false statement!

Wilbefast wrote:

King of Kings wrote:Build houses out of corpses =)

I guess that could take shelter under the floating cubes that now infest 3Dania.

Hmm, I don't know what 3Dania is... bugger.

Ozymandias wrote:I take resentment to that clearly false statement!

And I take exception to your taking resentment - stop hogging all the resentment! Just because you're The King of Kings...

Let me guess, you resent my acceptation to accept taking exception to your resentment of my suggestion that Sciurids are of the Aves class?

They're actually class Mammalia =o

Only mammals will be playable in overgrowth. Thus, birds will not. Squirrels are not birds, but mammals, so... =P

Foolish fool wrote:They're actually class Mammalia =o

Wrong! And I will prove it to you:

All Birds live in Trees (B=T)
All Squirrels live in Trees (S=T)

B=T AND S=T => S=B

We can therefore conclude that all Squirrels are Birds. Cower before my flawed logic bi- I mean guy!

Wilbefast wrote:All Birds live in Trees (B=T)

Show me a penguin that lives in a tree

spellcheker was briefly as a sorta class project in my web design class (tremeendous failure)


i think there should be very few mammals at this point the races that have been confirmed seem like more hten enough for an awesome story. although rhino people would be awesome

i think if the dogs were sheperds then emus, tortoises, african land snail, crocodiles, crabs, these are the only large none mammals that i can think of without using google


hmmmmm emus would be cool

but gator riding sounds awesome.

turtles could be used to make awesome armor

I agree that the announced races would be sufficient, but i'm sure lots of fun race mods will be coming out =P

I still say ostrich mounts.

Wilbefast wrote:Somebody has to be peaceful, because if everyone's destroying stuff and nobody's building it, you just get a whole load of corpses and no art, craft or architecture (which makes Aubrey sad). I think rabbits are the most appropriate choice for this role because the player is a rabbit generally action games have a you controlling a (wince) "good guy", and because in real life rabbits are probably the most civillised, colony (warren) based animals of the bunch.

Oh I agree with your ideas of rabbits mostly being the peaceful farmer types. I just mean that the fact someone runs for help when badly wounded doesn't mean they're a peaceful farmer only fighting because it's necessary. Anyone can run for help. Besides, the rabbits in Lugaru who run for help are all bandits, not farmers.

Wilbefast wrote:Ah, but aren't they exceedingly well trained in Lugaru? They're even better at reversals and spinning kicks than rabbits, and such skills doesn't generally stem from brute force and ignorance. I guess you can interpret the wolves tenacious nature as stupidity, bravery or fury just as easily, but at the end of the day they still do Kung Fu!

Everyone in Lugaru can do Kung Fu. Wolves being better at it could easily be down to their speed and strength. I think the fact they don't use weapons (unless a reversal tricks the engine into it) or armour supports my point, too. Them not running for help when help is close by and they're about to die could be bravery, I suppose, or fury... but it certainly doesn't seem intelligent.

Wilbefast wrote:I still like the idea of Dogs as sheperds though, but perhaps they could sheperd for themselves. Their livestock would have to be sheep for the whole "Sheep-dogs" lark to work, but dumb, non humanoid sheep. Funnily enough though, Wolves, Bears and Dogs are all technically omniovores

Dogs as shepherds for themselves works well, yeah. As for the other point, LOOK A DISTRACTION!

Wilbefast wrote: Have you ever owned a cat? Sure, they're proud but more than that they don't want to get hurt - killing is a game for them, and as soon as they stop enjoying the game (their prey fights back) they slip away in the most non-chalante, casual way they can manage.

All my life. It's the nonchalant aspect I meant by without losing face. They'll avoid serious injury if they can, but they'll want a few scars (on them or on you, either way) to show they didn't just run away. Not exactly like a cat, I know, but like a cat if a cat were people. In my mind, anyway.

Wilbefast wrote:Cats are carnivores however, so the problem becomes what do THEY eat? I hardly think the Rabbits would agree to be ruled over AND eaten, unless of course there was some clever trick, like you win the lottery, and your prize is an oil massage, with rosemary and pepper, and then a relaxing bath in a cauldron full of boiling water.

Hah! Great mental image, there. Well, there's fish, for one thing. Birds, too. And, obviously, I still like my idea of cats being behind the wolves' attempt to enslave the rabbits. The juicy, succulent rabbits. Mmmm, rabbits.

i really like the idea that the cats convinced the wolves that rabbits (and rats) are a better foodsource

hmmmm i wonder. theoretically if dogs are ashamed of there relation with wolves what lengths would they be willing to go to in order to defeat them.

would they destroy the food source if they are unable to defeat the alpha wolf. maybe that wass the fate of another rae (sheep perhaps)

i think that should be the plot twist in the game. i think turner should spend a rediculous amount of time trying to gain the dogs trust so he can help them defeat the wolves. then when an assassination attempt on the alphawolf fails they turn there sights onto the rabbits and rats.

perhaps then turner would have to force a war beetween the cats and dogs to try and save his own people.

Ozymandias wrote:

Wilbefast wrote:All Birds live in Trees (B=T)

Show me a penguin that lives in a tree

Penguins swim in water, therefore they are fish - it's all very simply, try to keep up!

Ralok wrote:spellcheker was briefly as a sorta class project in my web design class (tremeendous failure)

You clearly live in Tim Burton land.

invertin wrote:I still say ostrich mounts.

Argh! Final Fantasy vibe! Kill it, kill it!

Groveller wrote:

Wilbefast wrote: Have you ever owned a cat? Sure, they're proud but more than that they don't want to get hurt - killing is a game for them, and as soon as they stop enjoying the game (their prey fights back) they slip away in the most non-chalante, casual way they can manage.

All my life. It's the nonchalant aspect I meant by without losing face. They'll avoid serious injury if they can, but they'll want a few scars (on them or on you, either way) to show they didn't just run away. Not exactly like a cat, I know, but like a cat if a cat were people. In my mind, anyway.

Looks like we'll just have to agree to agree.

Groveller wrote:

Wilbefast wrote:Cats are carnivores however, so the problem becomes what do THEY eat? I hardly think the Rabbits would agree to be ruled over AND eaten, unless of course there was some clever trick, like you win the lottery, and your prize is an oil massage, with rosemary and pepper, and then a relaxing bath in a cauldron full of boiling water.

Hah! Great mental image, there. Well, there's fish, for one thing. Birds, too. And, obviously, I still like my idea of cats being behind the wolves' attempt to enslave the rabbits. The juicy, succulent rabbits. Mmmm, rabbits.

"Dear Turner, all of us here at Cat HQ would simply love to have you for dinner some time. It's no trouble - having you for dinner would be a great honour, and a great pleasure for us cats. So hop on over on those lovely, tender legs of your's. Signed - Felix"

Wilbefast wrote:

Wilbefast wrote:All Birds live in Trees (B=T)

Penguins swim in water, therefore they are fish - it's all very simply, try to keep up!

Stop contradicting yourself.