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Thumbs up! I am also very, very interested in physics-based animations... Something I've never seen before...

I like the sparkles as well... Could I have a sparkling two-handed battleaxe in Lugaru 2

Great job

Tribaal wrote:I like the sparkles as well... Could I have a sparkling two-handed battleaxe in Lugaru 2

Great job

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Videos = good!
Nice work. Hopefully the character physics will be this good too.

Razor7 wrote:

zip wrote:Can weight be assigned to specific sections of the model?

True, i think the hilt would be falling a little faster and would even out

sorry if i'm misunderstanding you, but it would fall the same even if one part were heavier than the other.

see, (counter-intuitively,) objects actually all fall at the same speed regardless of their weight. the only difference would be when air resistance came into play (like with a feather vs a bowling ball). but a ping-pong ball and a ping-pong ball of solid lead would fall at the same rate.

more info here

erazorhead wrote:

Razor7 wrote:

zip wrote:Can weight be assigned to specific sections of the model?

True, i think the hilt would be falling a little faster and would even out

sorry if i'm misunderstanding you, but it would fall the same even if one part were heavier than the other.

see, (counter-intuitively,) objects actually all fall at the same speed regardless of their weight. the only difference would be when air resistance came into play (like with a feather vs a bowling ball). but a ping-pong ball and a ping-pong ball of solid lead would fall at the same rate.

more info here

I realize that objects fall at the same speed no matter what the weight, but when it impacts another object then different areas of weight on the model would make a difference.

zip wrote:I realize that objects fall at the same speed no matter what the weight, but when it impacts another object then different areas of weight on the model would make a difference.

i agree, and i was responding more to razor7's incorrect (i think) assessment on how this weight difference would change how it fell.

broly had a good point in that, if we wanted essentially 'perfect' physics that incorporated weight balance between different parts of an object that was presumably composed of materials with varying density/weight, we would not need to do anything more complicated than to somehow code the item's center of gravity. however my sense is that, for all intents and purposes, the physics engine will be sophisticated enough without this extra work.

in fact, i'd say it'd be indistinguishable during normal gameplay, only really noticable in a complex physics demo of the engine designed to show it off.

in short, it looks phenomenal as it is. more than these weight differentials / center of gravity tweaks, i'd be interested in physical interactions between complex objects -- i.e. an armful of weapons dropped together and bouncing off each other.

erazorhead wrote: broly had a good point in that, if we wanted essentially 'perfect' physics that incorporated weight balance between different parts of an object that was presumably composed of materials with varying density/weight, we would not need to do anything more complicated than to somehow code the item's center of gravity. however my sense is that, for all intents and purposes, the physics engine will be sophisticated enough without this extra work.

I'm sure that this is covered in the engine. It's not difficult to deal with a center of mass.

more than these weight differentials / center of gravity tweaks, i'd be interested in physical interactions between complex objects -- i.e. an armful of weapons dropped together and bouncing off each other.

I'm sure that that is already implemented as well, since collision detection is there. So the results of such an experiment should be predictable.

rudel_ic wrote:

more than these weight differentials / center of gravity tweaks, i'd be interested in physical interactions between complex objects -- i.e. an armful of weapons dropped together and bouncing off each other.

I'm sure that that is already implemented as well, since collision detection is there. So the results of such an experiment should be predictable.

Still, it's a lot more computation than just one object bouncing on the ground, so there's the speed issue.

From what we've seen so far, it looks like L2 will put way more focus on weapons than L1. Game mechanics will probably get a lot more complex around them.

Me thinks L1 and L2 is going to differ alot, since L1 is a h2h fighting game and L2 a more RPG-like game. And with all these physics and effects..

I think im gonna have to hire a hacker to steal some of the goodies, sorry Dave, but its life or death

Crill3 wrote:Me thinks L1 and L2 is going to differ alot, since L1 is a h2h fighting game and L2 a more RPG-like game.

I hope it won't turn out that way. I want a beat 'em up! And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

RPG? That's what I need pen, paper, dice and imagination for. I've got enough of all these wannabe RPG games.

rudel_ic wrote:RPG? That's what I need pen, paper, dice and imagination for. I've got enough of all these wannabe RPG games.

As I understand it, it's just a dash of RPG elements. Essentially more freedom for the player.

Don't worry man, David's in the place .

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I know, I know. I've got my emotional moments.

rudel_ic wrote:

Crill3 wrote:Me thinks L1 and L2 is going to differ alot, since L1 is a h2h fighting game and L2 a more RPG-like game.

I hope it won't turn out that way. I want a beat 'em up! And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

RPG? That's what I need pen, paper, dice and imagination for. I've got enough of all these wannabe RPG games.

Sounds more to me like crill is talking about RPG elements that include an action type of battle system instead of a turn-base battle system. Like Rogue Galaxy.

haha turn-based lugaru -- that'd be a shame.


or an interesting mod