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Jeff wrote:I probably should have made this clearer in the beginning: L2 is probably not going to have Lugaru in the title. So it wouldn't be "Lugaru 2: Wolf Slayer", it would just be "Wolf Slayer". Does that change any opinions?

I think It should, as Lugaru is the Universe that all this takes place in.
Its like deciding a Command and Conquer game is not gonna have the title before the game title. Its part of the Franchize.

But if that is the case, It has changed my veiw quite dramaticly. I now dont know what to expect from it and there for now dont know what to call it.

But I still like the Name I put forth, maybe Lugaru: The Rabbits Legacy

"Wolf Reaper" isn't as good as "Wolf Slayer" in my opinion. It doesn't sound right somehow. "Wolf Raper", on the other hand...

Why not get ridiculous and call it "Wolf Head Collector Simulation 2009"?

Or make up something that actually makes no sense, but sounds cool. Like "Wolf Fu".

Or go partially latin with "Dying Lupus". Has emo undertones!
Alternatively choose "Flying Lupus".

Or get seemingly insulting with "Bitch Hunter". You then claim to only feature female wolves.

If you included Lugaru in the title it might entice people to look up the first Lugaru, whether you want that or not.

I do think "Lugaru II: Wolf Slayer" looks much cooler than just: "Wolf Slayer". Although if there is an image of a rabbit along with the title then they would both look great.

Jeff wrote:I probably should have made this clearer in the beginning: L2 is probably not going to have Lugaru in the title. So it wouldn't be "Lugaru 2: Wolf Slayer", it would just be "Wolf Slayer". Does that change any opinions?

I beseech you to reconsider.

Nothing is final yet, of course, but we are thinking that having Lugaru in the name is a bad move. Here's our reasoning:

No one knows what Lugaru is. Sure it has a pretty good following in a few corners of the internet, but in the grand scheme of things, 99.99% of gamers haven't heard of it before. Therefore, it's not like when you see GTA IV, which has a huge brand behind it and instantly makes you think "kick ass!", it is like, for the sake of example, seeing the sequel to a game you have never heard before like Jackalope II. I believe a sequel to a game without a brand is detrimental. You would think "I've never heard of Jackalope, why would I play Jackalope II".

Secondly, the name Lugaru is hard to pronounce, spell, and remember.

Therefore, we believe that having a fresh name is important. Obviously it will still be the sequel to Lugaru, but the name won't be Lugaru II.

The problem is the names we come up with won't exactly fit with the game. Since we don't really know L2 will be like except that it'll look better, have more moves, more things to do, bigger world, more killing stuff. So we're gonna come up with some really silly names. If there's anything you can say about the general plotline (even minor details) that might shove us in the right direction would be useful. Doesn't even have to be plotline, it could be moral challenges or something Turner has to face.
EDIT: A central theme of the game, I mean besides rabbits, wolves, weapons and killing things.

Grayswandir wrote:Order of the Leporidae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leporidae

The Pack (assuming he's killing more wolves)

Jeff wrote:Nothing is final yet, of course, but we are thinking that having Lugaru in the name is a bad move. Here's our reasoning:

No one knows what Lugaru is. Sure it has a pretty good following in a few corners of the internet, but in the grand scheme of things, 99.99% of gamers haven't heard of it before. Therefore, it's not like when you see GTA IV, which has a huge brand behind it and instantly makes you think "kick ass!", it is like, for the sake of example, seeing the sequel to a game you have never heard before like Jackalope II. I believe a sequel to a game without a brand is detrimental. You would think "I've never heard of Jackalope, why would I play Jackalope II".

Secondly, the name Lugaru is hard to pronounce, spell, and remember.

Therefore, we believe that having a fresh name is important. Obviously it will still be the sequel to Lugaru, but the name won't be Lugaru II.

What kind of theme do you want to hint at with the name?

Is it killing wolves and that's it? Then you already have a good name.

With some kind of outline what to expect from the game, at least in theory, I could give you lots of names to choose from.

You could hint at what to do, the setting, central characters, their role in the game, the beginning, the end, the gameplay, some mechanic that makes the game stand out, your company, some inside joke... Or just make up some cool word. Or flip through a dictionary and choose at random, make a title out of that.

If there's already a disconnect between the original and its spiritual successor from the title's angle, maybe that's not a good thing, even if you've never heard of Lugaru before. Or maybe it is. It's hard to say without any material.

The pronunciation thing may be a problem. I don't find the word Lugaru hard to remember though.

Bottom line, the game has to speak for itself in order to be a success. If it's awesome, the name doesn't really matter - see all the genericly named games out there, like Dungeon Siege, Dawn Of War, Company Of Heroes. Or look at games with weird, foreign names, like Katamari, Herzog Zwei, Tekken.

So what do you want to achieve with the title? Generate interest? Make up something that doesn't make sense, sounds like action and is easy to pronounce and remember. Like "Ki Bang" or "Okami SPLAT!". Or some weird shit like that.

Jeff wrote:Nothing is final yet, of course, but we are thinking that having Lugaru in the name is a bad move. Here's our reasoning:

No one knows what Lugaru is. Sure it has a pretty good following in a few corners of the internet, but in the grand scheme of things, 99.99% of gamers haven't heard of it before. Therefore, it's not like when you see GTA IV, which has a huge brand behind it and instantly makes you think "kick ass!", it is like, for the sake of example, seeing the sequel to a game you have never heard before like Jackalope II. I believe a sequel to a game without a brand is detrimental. You would think "I've never heard of Jackalope, why would I play Jackalope II".

Secondly, the name Lugaru is hard to pronounce, spell, and remember.

Therefore, we believe that having a fresh name is important. Obviously it will still be the sequel to Lugaru, but the name won't be Lugaru II.

You could use "Lugaru" as part of the title, instead of "Lugaru 2".

Lugaru: Wolf Slayer

I know that doesn't address all of the issues, but it makes it seem less of a sequel to an unknown game.

Dropping "Lugaru" sounds like a good idea.

Still "Wolf Slayer" is probably going to sound a bit "cheap" to many people, like a B-movie title.

Unoriginal but serviceable title, maybe:
Killer Rabbits
I think it might engage people's curiosity more.

If all else fails:
Hell's Hares

[Rabbit screech]

Oni 2

I think David has already Damed himself to using Lugaru as it is.
The First game was not called Lugaru, or The Rabbits foot.
Its Proper name is Lugaru: The Rabbits Foot!

To call the sequil Something without it is just inconsint and fucking stupid.
to me, Lugaru: The rabbits foot, was damed to have a sequil with Lugaru in it.

That's funny because your posts are consistently stupid.

Silb wrote:Still "Wolf Slayer" is probably going to sound a bit "cheap" to many people, like a B-movie title.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I find it bizarre there's actually people who believe it wouldn't be clichéd and drab. It just sounds like the title of a run of the mill action game that no one's going to play.

Chainsaw man wrote:To call the sequil Something without it is just inconsint and fucking stupid.

Considering the way you construct your sentences, you're hardly the authority on what's stupid.

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Jeff wrote:That's funny because your posts are consistently stupid.

What dose that have to do with Creating a name for Davids masterpeace? Jeff, that was not nice and uncalled for, If you have a problem with me Private message me. If it is about my profoanitys, Im sorry.

My point was that Lugaru had a title thats like a franchize name.
What I think is that its a fouly thing not to take advantage of such badass name, David picked a good name for a franchize, how bad ass Is the title LU-Gah-RU!

...I am Probobly wasteing my time trying to help. We all are, Lugaru 2 will obtane its title though a moment of Eureka, its very unlikely to come from a team of fan boys.

A few simple names:
Turner
Hare
Fur. (yes, with a period)

Simple is always good...

Angry Beaver; Flying Weasel
Mighty Dragon; Slaying Monkey
Angry Carrot; Whistling Weevil

Chainsaw man wrote:

Jeff wrote:That's funny because your posts are consistently stupid.

What the fudge

Swearing is bad. Remember last time Colic?

By the way, heres a thought for a title.
Wolfkiller: The Rabbits foot?

Hm.. Too cliche and doesn't sound right.

I want Lugaru: Wolfslayer. It just fits somehow.