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Well, just downloaded the demo. When I try to run the game, it starts up ok, but everything is slow in the menus and when try to enter a level it just crashes. Seems like it's on software rendering or something.

I get this message at startup: Windows version works ok in wine, but sound is dodgy there.

Any suggestions?

buy a mac.

Waaay helpful levbot, though "install windows" would have worked just as well.

A quick google search reports that Ut2k3 and 2k4 also have this problem, they were both ported by Icculus(and so was Lugaru I believe).

The "error" about 'XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD' isn't actually an error. It is just a piece of info saying that ut2004 can't find that extension for X. Only a very small group of graphics cards support it (I can't remember exactly what they are), and it doesn't apply to most cards; so don't worry about it. I think that Inculus' site about the linux version of UT has this as a FAQ, because everyone always seems to get confused.

So the message you are getting may not be the problem, what are your computer specs?

levbot wrote:buy a mac.

Yeah right, and have an obsolete system every few years because Apple can't make up its mind on what architecture it wants to use.

kgroombr wrote: Yeah right, and have an obsolete system every few years because Apple can't make up its mind on what architecture it wants to use.

???
They have been using IBM PPC for many years, and are now switching to Intel... where is the indecision?

jhardtone wrote:Well, just downloaded the demo. When I try to run the game, it starts up ok, but everything is slow in the menus and when try to enter a level it just crashes. Seems like it's on software rendering or something.

I get this message at startup:

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Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".

Windows version works ok in wine, but sound is dodgy there.

Any suggestions?

I had this problem and fixed it by linking the libs in the lugaru to the ones in the lib directory. Here are the commands that worked on my system:

cd /usr/local/games/lugaru
mv libSDL-1.2.so.0 libSDL-1.2.so.0.orig
ln -s /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
mv openal.so openal.so.orig
ln -s /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 openal.so

Good luck,
Ken

zip wrote:???
They have been using IBM PPC for many years, and are now switching to Intel... where is the indecision?

How long have you been using a Mac? It wasn't too long ago they switched from the Motorola 680X0 series to the PPC totally abandoning the users of those systems. In a year or so when Apple switches to Intel, all the software (and more or less your hardware) will be useless as well.

The hardware will still be good for running Linux since Apple won't support it anymore.

Ken

kgroombr wrote:

zip wrote:???
They have been using IBM PPC for many years, and are now switching to Intel... where is the indecision?

How long have you been using a Mac? It wasn't too long ago they switched from the Motorola 680X0 series to the PPC totally abandoning the users of those systems. In a year or so when Apple switches to Intel, all the software (and more or less your hardware) will be useless as well.

The hardware will still be good for running Linux since Apple won't support it anymore.

Ken

I've been using macs since I was 4(which makes 10 or 11 years), and that computer was a 68k.
And it was not that recent that the switched from 68k to PPC, especially in computer years ;P
As for the software being useless when they switch.. compatability is a quick compile away, unless your program cannot make the endian switch.
[edit] And they did not abandon the 68k users, the PPC macs could run 68k compiled applications. [/edit]

Thanks kgroombr, that's what i did, figured it out right after posting here, typical of me. Now if I only could buy this somehow...

zip wrote:

kgroombr wrote:

zip wrote:???
They have been using IBM PPC for many years, and are now switching to Intel... where is the indecision?

How long have you been using a Mac? It wasn't too long ago they switched from the Motorola 680X0 series to the PPC totally abandoning the users of those systems. In a year or so when Apple switches to Intel, all the software (and more or less your hardware) will be useless as well.

The hardware will still be good for running Linux since Apple won't support it anymore.

Ken

I've been using macs since I was 4(which makes 10 or 11 years), and that computer was a 68k.
And it was not that recent that the switched from 68k to PPC, especially in computer years ;P
As for the software being useless when they switch.. compatability is a quick compile away, unless your program cannot make the endian switch.
[edit] And they did not abandon the 68k users, the PPC macs could run 68k compiled applications. [/edit]

Unfortunately, Intel programs will not run on PPC, so unless every single program in the future is FAT then current mac users are going to get the shaft.

all this tech jargon.. just get a job and buy a flippin' mac

levbot wrote:all this tech jargon.. just get a job and buy a flippin' mac

What a good solution! Run into a problem? Don't ask for help, just spend a couple grand on a new computer!

XD Unbelievable

Jeff wrote:

zip wrote:

kgroombr wrote: How long have you been using a Mac? It wasn't too long ago they switched from the Motorola 680X0 series to the PPC totally abandoning the users of those systems. In a year or so when Apple switches to Intel, all the software (and more or less your hardware) will be useless as well.

The hardware will still be good for running Linux since Apple won't support it anymore.

Ken

I've been using macs since I was 4(which makes 10 or 11 years), and that computer was a 68k.
And it was not that recent that the switched from 68k to PPC, especially in computer years ;P
As for the software being useless when they switch.. compatability is a quick compile away, unless your program cannot make the endian switch.
[edit] And they did not abandon the 68k users, the PPC macs could run 68k compiled applications. [/edit]

Unfortunately, Intel programs will not run on PPC, so unless every single program in the future is FAT then current mac users are going to get the shaft.

New software will probably be distributed with a PPC and Intel build for some time. We survived the 68k->PPC switch without any angry mobs running through silicon valley, hopefully this will go as smoothly.

Jeff wrote:

zip wrote:

kgroombr wrote: How long have you been using a Mac? It wasn't too long ago they switched from the Motorola 680X0 series to the PPC totally abandoning the users of those systems. In a year or so when Apple switches to Intel, all the software (and more or less your hardware) will be useless as well.

The hardware will still be good for running Linux since Apple won't support it anymore.

Ken

I've been using macs since I was 4(which makes 10 or 11 years), and that computer was a 68k.
And it was not that recent that the switched from 68k to PPC, especially in computer years ;P
As for the software being useless when they switch.. compatability is a quick compile away, unless your program cannot make the endian switch.
[edit] And they did not abandon the 68k users, the PPC macs could run 68k compiled applications. [/edit]

Unfortunately, Intel programs will not run on PPC, so unless every single program in the future is FAT then current mac users are going to get the shaft.

New software will probably be distributed with a PPC and Intel build for some time. We survived the 68k->PPC switch without any angry mobs running through silicon valley, hopefully this will go as smoothly.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but the switch doesn't particuarly bother me, except that of course intel is t3h sux0r3z.