I got mugged

Chainsaw man · Post by **Chainsaw man** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:56 am

You could conventonaly kill any human with one. How ever, when you know an NZSAS is there you are too late, your neck suddenly breaks and your dead without a chance to say good byes

diu · Post by **diu** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:22 am

I think David's post is really well-reasoned out. The details from getting stabbed to the circumstances surrounding the bigger picture were clearly stated.

I think you would have to resort to risk assessment in such situations. You'd have to assess your fighting skill/background/training and see if it's up to par. You'd have to figure out what kind of environment you're in, the chance that you can get help nearby, and the chance that the other person would have backup. The biggest advantage he has is the element of surprise.

Say you were able to overcome all of that, maybe you managed to reverse the situation and hurt him instead and left yourself unscathed, miraculously. Now you would have to face the court too. You would have to spend a significant time in the courtroom to get things sorted out and also determining if the force/aggression you used were appropriate for the situation. If it wasn't appropriate, you'd probably get into some trouble yourself.

Of course, you don't have time to make such an assessment in the heat of the moment. More often than not, though, it's not worth the risk by fighting back on the spot. I think it's best to save your energy when you fight through the police/legal system.

The one exception to all of this is when you believe your life is in jeopardy.

Chainsaw man · Post by **Chainsaw man** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:22 am

Or if you manage to beat him: kill him, butcher him and burry his remains under your drive way.
If your that warryed you can always fill the fridge up with his reamins and eat him over the couse of winter. If your in a small town no one will mess with you and suspect that you were behind the killing, then only the foolish would cross you.

Uberbeard · Post by **Uberbeard** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:29 am

This is the kind of topic that really brings out the retard in people...

Sandurz · Post by **Sandurz** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:16 am

@ diu
If a guy pulls a knife on you, it's self defence. Period.

nutcracker · Post by **nutcracker** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:31 am

Renegade_Turner wrote:

In a street fight? Martial arts are useless.

Bullshit! You can disarm a knife unarmed, if you got a grocery bag or something, hit first, nutshot + run...PErfect!

shadow717 · Post by **shadow717** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:29 am

Well, in response to Davids post, my dad was a cop, and he said that he took a call where one guy literally had his intestines dangling out of his stomach after he got cut with a knife, but he kept fighting.

In other news, guess who I ran into today by my school, the mugger. He walked up to me and tried to mug me again. He walked up to me and said "Hey Mate, give me your laptop, and your money." I Told him to "F

k off". He said he was going to stab me, if I didn't give him my laptop. I said he was bluffing. He punched me, but I tackled him, then we got into a fight, that ended with me breaking his hand and kicking him in the face, and me with a black eye, and scrapes and cuts all over my elbow.

Moral of the story. Revenge is bitter sweet. It doesn't matter how much you win, you still lose, now I'm sitting here with a laptop that has a slightly cracked screen, and some guy in the hospital because of me.

Other moral of the story, if someone mugs you, give them your things, and make sure you have insurance for your stuff.

Sandurz · Post by **Sandurz** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:37 am

Revenge is best serve cold....with no witnesses.

invertin · Post by **invertin** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:05 am

Sandurz wrote:@ diu
If a guy pulls a knife on you, it's self defence. Period.

If someone pulls a knife, then they have a knife. As in the lethal weapon.

Also, that intestines guy was freaking badass.

Glabbit · Post by **Glabbit** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:12 am

Yes, martial arts are useless. Unless you're really good. But few people are that good. NEVER overestimate yourself.

David is right.
Invertin is right.
Ren is right.

If you're full of bravado, you'll end up like an old friend of my dad's in america, who had a gun put to his head through the window while he was in his car.
"Give me all your money!"
And the reaction was:
"Fuck off."
Yes, it's quite something to say in such a situation.
He didn't survive it though, so keep your head cool.

Also I'm not sure if I'm intelligent enough to take my own advice.
If the obituaries ever show 'Galen P. Deering - murdered in an alley', you know what I was trying to do.

Plus:

nutcracker wrote:
Renegade_Turner wrote:

In a street fight? Martial arts are useless.
Bullshit! You can disarm a knife unarmed, if you got a grocery bag or something, hit first, nutshot + run...PErfect!

How the HELL is that martial arts?

Sandurz · Post by **Sandurz** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:48 pm

invertin wrote:
Sandurz wrote:@ diu
If a guy pulls a knife on you, it's self defence. Period.
If someone pulls a knife, then they have a knife. As in the lethal weapon.

Also, that intestines guy was freaking badass.

He was speaking hypothetically if you DID reverse the situation, and were in power.

nutcracker · Post by **nutcracker** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:49 pm

shadow717 wrote:Well, in response to Davids post, my dad was a cop, and he said that he took a call where one guy literally had his intestines dangling out of his stomach after he got cut with a knife, but he kept fighting.

In other news, guess who I ran into today by my school, the mugger. He walked up to me and tried to mug me again. He walked up to me and said "Hey Mate, give me your laptop, and your money." I Told him to "F k off". He said he was going to stab me, if I didn't give him my laptop. I said he was bluffing. He punched me, but I tackled him, then we got into a fight, that ended with me breaking his hand and kicking him in the face, and me with a black eye, and scrapes and cuts all over my elbow.

Moral of the story. Revenge is bitter sweet. It doesn't matter how much you win, you still lose, now I'm sitting here with a laptop that has a slightly cracked screen, and some guy in the hospital because of me.

Other moral of the story, if someone mugs you, give them your things, and make sure you have insurance for your stuff.

How did you break his hand? Handlock?

Bullshit! You can disarm a knife unarmed, if you got a grocery bag or something, hit first, nutshot + run...PErfect![/quote]
How the HELL is that martial arts?[/quote]

If the nutshot kick is a martial arts kick then it is.

Starrz · Post by **Starrz** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:09 pm

invertin wrote: 2- Martial arts are not magic. If the mugger has a knife and you know how to disarm a knife, give him what he wants. Especially if he is holding the knife properly.

Does this include Chuck Norris? :O

Glabbit wrote:Yes, martial arts are useless. Unless you're really good. But few people are that good. NEVER overestimate yourself.

I'm going to get a lot of shit from this, but karate can save your life. I'm guessing none of you have EVER taken martial arts, but there are a lot of moves and stuff that can protect you from a knife. There's stuff you've never known about that they do. Ya know? It's like you can learn alot of stuff from this. It might not save your life. You're always gonna have to take chances in life.

It's like a snake in front of you. Snakes are typically blind, but they have a keen sense of hearing, so any move you make is practically potent to a snake's ears. (Snakes have ears, right?) Well are you going to try to kill it? Are you going to wait for it to leave? Are just run away? Ya know?

Well, never overestimate yourself. Never underestimate yourself, either. ^^

Grayswandir · Post by **Grayswandir** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:12 pm

Chainsaw man wrote:Or if you manage to beat him: kill him, butcher him and burry his remains under your drive way.
If your that warryed you can always fill the fridge up with his reamins and eat him over the couse of winter. If your in a small town no one will mess with you and suspect that you were behind the killing, then only the foolish would cross you.

You're doing it wrong.

Count Roland · Post by **Count Roland** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:32 pm

you've got to chop him up into sixteen different pieces and feed him to pigs.
you like dags?
also shadow, seems the only part of that that's bitter sweet is the cracked laptop thing, imho if you beat him up that much you should have beat him up more. this somehow reminded me of fourth grade where some fat twins stole some of those chuck e tickets from me, and the whole time they were taunting me I had my hand on a 8" knife I always carried around with me, but I figured I'd do the good thing and let them go. later when I was leaving chuck e's I saw the fatties bragging to their friends and had been feeling quite a bit of guilt at letting them get away. so I walked up and smashed one of their faces into a wall and punched the other one in the throat and left. revenge had never felt so good, I just wish I had of beat the hell out of them in the arcade and kept my tickets instead of out there. their friends must not have been very good friends though they didn't do anything. I really love revenge though regardless of what happens to me I'll be happy if I get revenge well enough.

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